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  • Pole Saftey

    Posted by isisandshiva on January 28, 2010 at 5:12 am

    so I’m sort of just starting to learn how to dance, despite having my pole for almost a year and a half, and I just found a a class in the city nearest to me and I’m going about 5 times a week, but I’ve noticed that saftey is really not an issue there, and it’s starting to bother me, I’ve gone four times now and the first time there the instructer was having me and the friend I went with do kicking up inverts, and last night we were doing moves that were way to advanced for me, I can barely hold a venus upright and she was trying to get me to try an inverted venus (just because I kind of managed in a falling sort of way doesn’t make it a good idea). So mainly the point of all that is asking if there are any saftey tips I can get here so I don’t hurt myself there, because I really do love doing it, and despite being sore and covered in bruises I want to go back, but I also know that my shoulder is giving me more problems than just sore or over used, and I can’t risk doing anything to actualy damage it.Help?

    Foxy_Rei replied 14 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 6 Replies
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  • minicoopergrl

    Member
    January 28, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    whoever is running the program, THATS WHO YOU NEED TALK TO. I dont know how your skills are but if your not ready for inverts, you need to be doing other things. I always say that your natural instinct will kick in if you need to stop yourself.

  • StellarMotion

    Member
    January 29, 2010 at 7:43 am

    HI, Isisandshiva. Love your screen name!

    I don’t know what a Venus is. But if you’d like to be able to keep up with the class, I think you would benefit from some strength and endurance training of the muscles involved in the holds and inverts. Unfortunately developing the strength to do advanced moves can take a long time. But if you want some safety advice that you can employ right away, my suggestion would be to stop doing moves that you seem savvy enough to know you cannot do safely at this time. So, obviously there’s skin pain from friction. But if you feel pain in your muscles or joints, STOP. If you feel afraid that you’re going to lose control of a move, STOP. If you try several moves that require a lot of exertion and your muscles get very fatigued, STOP. There’s nothing more dangerous than temporary muscle failure during an inverted move.

    I agree with Mini that you should consider expressing some of your concerns about safety to the instructor. Also bear in mind that there are a lot of fun, beautiful moves that can be done on and around a pole without having to invert, or do other activities that your muscles may not be currently prepared for. If your instructor does not address your safety concerns/fears in a proactive way, maybe that particular studio is not the right one for you.

    Veena has a strong emphasis on safety in all of her work. So if you don’t feel safe in your current class, just remember that Veena’s lessons will teach you fun and pretty moves you can do at your current level of poling, will give you strength and flexibility training that will help prepare you for more advanced moves, and her lessons probably cost a lot less than the lessons at your studio. If nothing else, you could use the Veena lessons to become stronger and more advanced, and then return to your current pole class later on when your body is better prepared to handle performing the difficult, strenuous, and advanced moves your instructor is teaching. But by that time, there’s always the chance that you could end up being more advanced than the instructor!

    If your shoulder is giving you problems, that may be your body’s way of asking you to stop hurting yourself. Maybe you and your friend can do the Veena lessons online together. I am sure you’ll have a better time practicing moves that you can do, than you are while you’re forcing yourself into dangerous positions that you can’t successfully pull off.

    By reading your post, I feel that you already know the answer to your question. Take my response and Mini’s as confirmation of what your body and intuition have already declared.

    Take good care of yourself. Don’t risk the health of your shoulder. You could possibly turn a minor injury into a severe and permanent one if you don’t honor your body’s present limits. And there’s always the risk of landing on your head, twisting your neck or wrist, or having some other fall-related injury even if your shoulder is fine. Whatever you do decide to do, just please think about your safety first. The rest can come in time.

  • verucablue

    Member
    January 29, 2010 at 11:01 am

    …also 5 times a week may initially be a bit much…your muscles may need a little time to recoup https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

  • isisandshiva

    Member
    January 29, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Uunfortunatly the girl who runs the studio is the one who has no concept of saftey, and while I supppose not going is an option it’s not one I like because while I do have a pole at home I don’t have the dicipline required to do anything about it, I’ve had it for over a year and drag it out every other month maybe. It’s actualy because of this sight I know the sholders back and down thing otherwise my shoulder would probably be wrenched out of socket, and that’s actualy tthe kind of saftey I was looking for like for certian things is there something specific I should be doing to make it done right? I’m hoping it’s going to get better though because I’m loaning them my art of pole set and hopefuly they will learn that the have to say these things, but ehh till then I’ll have to learn how to be safe here and my freind will have to wait till she’s not prego to try anything unsupervised.

    btw the venus is just a split grip and you lift your legs up into a V (or you can do it inverted, don’t recomend it for me anymore though, landed on my neck last night) what do yall call it?

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    January 29, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    btw the venus is just a split grip and you lift your legs up into a V (or you can do it inverted, don’t recomend it for me anymore though, landed on my neck last night) what do yall call it?
    I know it as boomerang.

  • Foxy_Rei

    Member
    January 29, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    I’m hoping it’s going to get better though because I’m loaning them my art of pole set and hopefuly they will learn that the have to say these things, but ehh till then I’ll have to learn how to be safe here and my freind will have to wait till she’s not prego to try anything unsupervised.

    You’re loaning your studio instructional DVDs on how to pole? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif Did I read that correctly? I would take that as a very very bad sign if I were you… I know you said disciplining yourself to pole at home is a problem, but by the sounds of it you would be better off using those DVDs by yourself at home than going to a studio who appears to have no idea what they’re doing.

    Your friend that’s pregnant – how far along is she? If she’s more than 3 months she should definitely NOT be inverting! I don’t even think it’s recommended to invert at all once you find out you’re pregnant… The instructor should have been much more cautious with your friend.

    I believe the moves you are talking about are called a boomerang (upright) and upside down it’s called an aysha or a straightedge split. From you’re story, it sounds like the instructor was teaching you to invert then go directly into the aysha – that is VERY bad! The instructor shouldn’t be teaching you to invert on your first lesson, first of all, and second the aysha is an advanced move! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_mad.gif

    This first week of class, in my opinion, the instructor should have spent assessing your skill level on the pole and filling in any gaps. Having you (and your pregnant friend) inverting on the first lesson was not a good idea, and trying an aysha within only a few lessons was an even worse one.

    I know you really want this, but I think you’re going to get hurt… I’d find another studio. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif

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