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  • different kind of layback

    Posted by carriej on February 8, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    OK, so I just saw a pole move that I’ve never seen before! I tried it and thought I was going to break my ankle from the hold so I didn’t get it. Does anyone know how to do the move at 2:37 from Leigh Ann’s "Little Red Corvette" from pole show L.A. on youtube? It looks easy but…give it a try! It’s so cool. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cool.gif I gotta learn this one.

    poledanceromance replied 14 years, 9 months ago 11 Members · 24 Replies
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  • Foxy_Rei

    Member
    February 8, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    I don’t know what it’s called or how to do it, but I’ve seen the move in some Chinese pole videos – I know Remi Martin did it in at least one video of his I’ve seen. (or at least something extremely similar)

    At first I thought she was doing it one way but then watched it again and I was wrong… It’s strange, she’s gripping the pole with the foot of one leg and the knee of the other leg, but the free foot is stuck through the free knee on the other leg… and yes, it does look painful.

    So Is gots nothin’. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

    Hopefully someone else has some better input on this… https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif

  • carriej

    Member
    February 8, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Yeah, it’s like you’re doing a pole climb with the back leg (let’s say left leg) and you stick your right leg around the pole and behind the left knee before you hook the left foot behind the pole. I can get my legs in that position but to attempt to lay back kills my left foot/ankle. I wonder how much weight is on the top knee versus the hooked foot.

  • Dayanara

    Member
    February 8, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Funny, I saw that video on saturday and THAT exact move stuck with me, I need it! LOL, I will try it as soon as I’m cleared to climb (I’m injured at the moment) and let you guys know if I figured out or not. it looks awesome.

  • Veena

    Administrator
    February 9, 2010 at 3:45 am

    I think that was my favorite performance of the night, she did great. Thats a wicked cool move. Just be very careful if you have any knee problems, this one would be killer on the poor knee joints!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/alien.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/alien.gif

  • MilienElayne

    Member
    February 9, 2010 at 11:46 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2j_Opqchag

    Oh wow. I haven’t seen an AERIAL Jamilla to Butterfly before (1.10). Hella strong! And 1.42 is like a shoulder dismount into shoulder splits, which would KILL the contact points, but gets a really nice split going. Is 2.03 an elbow grip extended butterfly? Hot!

    And …..that layback at 2.35… yes, yes, indeed… I do need that. It looks so contorted. 3.55: what is that?! Must have that too.

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    February 9, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    The boots she’s wearing MUST be a factor!/tilts head

    woah. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    February 9, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Maybe Sapphire can lend some insight to this?

    I cannot view videos here at work, but is that the one where she looks like she is sitting Indian style on the floor but is on the pole? That is the only move that I have seen Remi do that I think she did.

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    February 9, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Yes Chemmie I believe it’s that move – What a memory you’ve got to be able to picture that!

    I also loved this performance. It was very creative…very artistic!

    I was working on this the other day and am far from getting the full hold:

    https://www.studioveena.comhttp&#58://empowermentthroughexoticdance.com/MECKALB.jpg

    I can help only a little so far. Let me preface this by saying that I personally feel this is a very risky if not dangerous move! The first time I flipped my legs into it and thought…oh cool, this isn’t bad…and went to lay back if I hadn’t caught myself I quite possibly would have broken my ankle on the hooked foot!

    The pressure on that foot is incredible!

    Im not so certain that the boots are the "key" but they definitely make a big difference as the "key" is the grip of the hooked foot…not sure it’s possible to grip without the boots or some shoes…but of course we have MANY people proving the impossible to be possible so I’m certain it’s just me. I definitley advise practicing with boots first time.

    Lets call the hooked knee the INSIDE leg and the hooke foot the OUTSIDE leg.

    Climb > Sit with legs crossed in front, wrapping outside leg over the top of the inside leg.

    The trick is to cross them below the knees…the outside leg crosses very low over the bottom of the inside leg…just about right at the ankle.

    Your inside knee is higher than the outside knee.

    Move your torso back and away from the pole then:

    I highly recommend walking your hands down the pole until your inside hand is supporting you below just as you would when first learning a layback or a plank.

    As I said…the pressure on the outside ankle is incredible!

    To get a better idea, you can see the ankle positions much better in this picture of Leigh Ann than in mine:

    https://www.studioveena.comhttp&#58://empowermentthroughexoticdance.com/LACKLB.jpg

    PLEASE…..use a spotter a crashmat and watch that ankle!

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    February 9, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    From the still it’s obvious she has a sweet spot for that move just like we all have to find our sweet spot for knee hold. Just depending on the leg length/width/shape the leg position could be more open or closed.  Maybe this would be one to try leaning back on a chair like veena teaches knee hold, but just laying back on it to get the legs in position, or right off the ground over a mat.  

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    February 9, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Yes Chemmie I believe it’s that move – What a memory you’ve got to be able to picture that!

    As soon as Remi was mentioned I knew what move it was because I remember thinking "she stole that from Remi" when she did it in her routine.

  • Foxy_Rei

    Member
    February 10, 2010 at 3:09 am

    I DID IT! (with thigh-high boots on, but I did it!)

    I just uploaded a pic to my profile pics… I didn’t quite have time to lay back all the way (10 second timer, you know). I had more problems with spinning when I laid back all the way than I did with the pain.

    I found I had more problems with the pain from the eyelets in my boots pressing into my ankle, lol. I also slid my lower ankle a bit more to the side so that the very bottom of my shin was more against the pole than the ankle joint was, if that makes sense… took some of the pressure of it.

    I can’t wait to try this when I get my leg grip back in full swing again https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

  • Rara

    Member
    February 10, 2010 at 3:18 am

    I DID IT! (with thigh-high boots on, but I did it!)

    I just uploaded a pic to my profile pics… I didn’t quite have time to lay back all the way (10 second timer, you know). I had more problems with spinning when I laid back all the way than I did with the pain.

    I found I had more problems with the pain from the eyelets in my boots pressing into my ankle, lol. I also slid my lower ankle a bit more to the side so that the very bottom of my shin was more against the pole than the ankle joint was, if that makes sense… took some of the pressure of it.

    I can’t wait to try this when I get my leg grip back in full swing again https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

    https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif Way to go Foxy_Rei. You are back and comin along very well. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif Those boots look great on you. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

  • Foxy_Rei

    Member
    February 10, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    Thanks RaRa! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif

    I put up a quick vid if anyone is interested… wasn’t by best because I started spinning and didn’t want to let go all the way, but meh.

  • carriej

    Member
    February 11, 2010 at 3:03 am

    no way! I can’t believe some of you are getting this move so quickly! I tried it a million times after I saw it and thought the pain on my hooked foot/ankle was going to snap the damn thing in two! hmm…haven’t tried it in boots yet. let’s see…..

  • loopielou

    Member
    February 12, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Me and my instructor were trying this last night but couldn’t work it out at all! Will keep trying tho https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif

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