StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions Help with the Allegra

  • Charley

    Member
    July 19, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    How is your flexibility? I am not very good at this move because my back flexibility is not there not to mention leg flexibility. I am not saying that’s your issue but that’s mine with it – it doesn’t look good on me at all.

    Aside from that try getting into it from flatline scorpio. I found the closer I could get my torso to my hooked leg the easier it was to extend it.

  • 2010Raven

    Member
    July 21, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    My flexibility is pretty good when it comes to doing the splits. I’ll have to regain some of the flexibility of my back. It just seems that if one can do the ballerina, the allegra shouldn’t be a problem. I can even grab my opposite ankle while attempting the allegra. Hopefully I’m not pressing my upper leg too hard against the pole.

  • MilienElayne

    Member
    July 22, 2010 at 4:34 am

    I had this, then I gained more flexibility and strength and now I don’t have it! I don’t know what’s going on, I just can’t get a lock… all that holds me up now when I am in position is my hand and I can’t hold all my weight on just that for long. What are the other contact points? One of the times I tried it recently my hand slipped and I plumetted onto on my ass and jarred my tailbone, so confidence in this move is also low now https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif Keep forgetting to ask my instructor to work on it with me. What other ways can you get into it besides flatline scorpio?

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    July 22, 2010 at 5:45 am

    I’m with you. Had no confidence to try it, so I waited to be instructed on this one on a mat. I was taught that the easiest way is from a chopper. Get a comfy thigh grip and hold with the outside hand while inverted, reach the top hand around and get it solid then arch way way back, really really arch and drop the back leg. When I was doing it right, the thigh burn was unreal. I was working on it more today. It’s just excruciating to me. As
    bad as yogini was at first for me. But from a chopper is definitely the easiest way IMO. I was also shown from Scorpio but she said there’s an innate awkwardness to that way that makes it a little harder and I found that to be true. Tbh Im just tickled to finally be in a position to talk about this move! Woohoo haha!

  • Jenn

    Member
    July 22, 2010 at 6:57 am

    I can get into this move easy enough, the problem is holding it! Once I let go with that leg, I can only hold for a few secs before my hand grip starts to slip. Someone had mentioned to me that it is incredibly painful because the thigh "rolls" inward against the pole, but I haven’t felt that happen yet, so maybe I am not arching enough. Does it become more secure the further you arch your back?

  • MilienElayne

    Member
    July 22, 2010 at 7:03 am

    Yeah, when I first tried it I did it from Scorpio before I had my Scorpio lines perfected and the leg burn was amazing. I got the most giant bruise ever. Now that my Scorpio lines have changed and my back and hamstrings are much more flexy (and my thighs are less fat) there is very little pressure on my leg, I just sink. I’m thinking of trying it from a hiphold V (but my grip for that is weird too, I hold it only on the inside of one thigh, there is no hip contact at all…another thing I’ve been meaning to talk to my instructor about). Should get off my butt and break out the couch cushions and practice… Thankyou https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

  • PoleGrrrrl

    Member
    July 22, 2010 at 8:33 am

    Dont forget to turn your body to the side, your torso needs to be facing outwards, rather than upwards, in order to get the lines you need. Notice if you finish your allegra in a scorpio, your lines in your scorpio are often better than normal? its because of the turn of your hips to be facing AWAY from the pole, rather than up. Its just that this will hurt like a biatch on your hip and side of your torso in contact with the pole.

    You’re not going to be able to grab the pole and hold it if your body is facing up, (that’s like a weird one handed chopper), its the contact points along your torso and inner thigh on the top leg that help distribute the weight.

    Hope that helps! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

  • jeng

    Member
    July 22, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    It took me over a month to get this one without feeling like my hand grip was slipping or letting go because of the pain. Definately having your body turned away from the pole as others mentioned helps. Eventually the pain went away after repetition like it did for me when i was learning the scorpio and superman. Just keep practicing.

  • smokinangel

    Member
    July 23, 2010 at 7:44 am

    try getting into it from an apprentice. if your right side is to the pole, apprentice up, bring the left knee a little through the hole, squeeze the pole with your thighs (think a tucked ball squeezing the pole). bring the right hand up (bottom hand) to grab behind the right knee. you should roll right into position as you try to straighten the legs. had a workshop with jenyne recently, she taught this intro and it is sooo much easier than the scorpio intro. i find my body falls into position, rather than having to think about rolling into position. good luck!

  • cococutie007

    Member
    July 23, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    I finally got this last night https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif It’s not perfect but I did get that leg straight and was able to hold my back foot for a bit. Did it twice. I was surprised when I got it the 1st time and didn’t have a camera out. I’m so excited! I got into it from an invert, scorpio then dropped my scorpio leg as if I was going into a hip hold. From the semi-hip hold (if that makes any sense) It’s easier to reach behind and grab the pole and extend. In the hip hold you have that much needed contact with your torso (like polegrrrl said) so that for me made it easier to reach around. Also I made sure to keep the extended leg in the crook of my elbow which allowed me to really get a good grip on the pole. It does hurt like huueellll on top of that thigh and I’ve got the bruise to prove it but nailing the move was so worth it. Turning your body out and tilting back in a sense relieves some of the weight you have bearing down on that arm that’s holding your extended leg which most people have a problem with. It usually brings you down when you try to take it off the pole lol and very quick as I found out. Good Luck ladies!!

  • EvaRut

    Member
    July 23, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    This looks like an easy way to get into the allegra. Check it out, starts at 3:08 https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif Going to try it out tonight. Need this move! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veJLrVEZ7O0

  • Jenn

    Member
    July 23, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    This looks like an easy way to get into the allegra. Check it out, starts at 3:08 https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif Going to try it out tonight. Need this move! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veJLrVEZ7O0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

    That’s usually how i get into it on (but static mode), but can’t hold long because my hand grip slips. Gonna try it from the apprentice and see how it goes.

  • Starsky

    Member
    February 21, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Ok I'm glad I found this. I'm working on my allegra and I was starting to think maybe my arms weren't long enough(I'm 5'2 with a prayer so being too small for things isen't new to me)https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif I was going into gemini then half jade and for the life of me I just couldn't get my arm to reach and grab the pole. After reading this I'm not twisting my hips to face away from the pole. Now my brain  gets that but my body is rebelling. At what point do your turn your hips away. Half jade then turn and grab? Stupid question but I'm struggling with why can't figure this one out.

  • Veena

    Administrator
    February 21, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    I show two methods of entering the Allegra. Scorpio and Half or full hip hold. If your shorter the Hip hold method my work better for you.

    https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/f7c4b070-b91e-11df-856f-001b214581be

  • Starsky

    Member
    February 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Thanks Veena, I was actually following your lesson on it and found I the second to be a bit easier for me but I'm just getting lost on the hip turn. When I'm in half jade with knee to my chest do I somehow turn my right hip at that point? Probably a very silly question but I've been struggling with it all day so  I'm obcessing about it now lol

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