StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions Racheal Ray talks about poling accident

  • Veena

    Administrator
    November 4, 2010 at 2:20 am

    Yes we should always be careful…but freak accidents do happen…. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops_ani.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cyclops_ani.gif It doesn’t take a genius to judge weather or not your too close to someone who is flying around a pole and hey if a dancer tell someone to back up and they don’t!…. I do have to say, I always worry the girl will poke some guy with her shoe when I see them do up close shows for people with their feel all waving about. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif It makes me so angry that as a society we have become so sue happy though. I don’t know weather this guy was being dumb or if the dancer was just careless but come on. If is was a similar situation to yours Joni, where the dancer told the guy to back off and he didn’t well then its his problem……

  • Serzi

    Member
    November 4, 2010 at 3:21 am

    Umm, yeah, people really need to take responsibility for their own well-being sometimes. If you stick your hand in a campfire while you are drunk, does that give you the right to sue Budweiser? If you choose to stand too close to Ol’ Faithful at Yellowstone National Park and get blasted off the map, does it mean the park is responsible. I am so tired of lawsuits being placed on businesses and employees due to customer stupidity. I don’t believe that man should have been able to sue the stripper (although I may not know the full story), but he was an adult at a business for ADULT entertainment…not a child in a damn daycare center! People need to watch out for themselves too once in awhile and not just leave it up to proprietors, employees, or fate if they hope to keep their eyesight.

    In other news: Sorry, nobody forced the cup to your lips when you spilled scalding hot coffee all over yourself and caused a forty-car pile up…leave McDonalds out of it. You knew the coffee was piping hot, why would they serve it cold or even luke-warm? Simple, basic logic and common sense. Did anyone ever think to sue the DMV for issuing that moron w/ a driver’s license in the first place? lmao

    ~*Serzi

  • moth

    Member
    November 4, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Some people really are like moths to a flame – sensible people take one look at the BIG POINTY SHOES and give them a wide berth!!

    It’s part of the reason I’m terrified to dance around other people. I try to avoid them but I clatter the sofa/wall/ceiling more often than I’d like and I’ve had a few near misses around the boyfriend and dog. Sometimes I wonder if I’m a bit too clumsy to pole :/

  • MissChiefNYC

    Member
    November 4, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    While doing a spin , I hit my foot on the TV. It’s time to sue SONY. OUCH!

    (r https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_geek.gif

  • minicoopergrl

    Member
    November 4, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Serzi brings up alot of good points. I have not met a stripper who danced barefoot (en pointe – yes!), yet we all know they were the big heels. He went to an adult club and hes an adult (or his age makes him an adult), that doesnt mean he needs to get all childish. I agree with Veena, im so tired of the world being so sue happy. I heard some where there are 3 ways people think they are going to get rich – 1. inheritance 2. winning the lottery and 3. SUEING SOMEONE https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif

  • Charley

    Member
    November 4, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    The best seats in the house are never at the rail – so don’t sit there. I am shocked he didn’t directly sue the club seeing as the seats were obviously too close to the pole which puts patrons in danger. I am shocked this guy was able to get anything from the dancer.

  • joni1

    Member
    November 4, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    I am shocked this guy was able to get anything from the dancer.
    All it takes Charley is for a bad judge who has a thing against strippers and pole dancing. Not all judges are bais and fair. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_mad.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_evil.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif

  • Charley

    Member
    November 5, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    I know Joni, I am just upset that they didn’t see it as an issue with the club. The club requires the big heels, the club sits the rail too close to the stage – so really it’s the clubs fault not hers.

    Totally not fair to sue someone who just doing their job. Maybe we need to form some sort of lega council for pole dancers, lol.

  • marle777

    Member
    November 5, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    I agree with Charley on this one. The patron should have sued the club, not the dancer; where I live the neighborhood club has an amazingly small and narrow stage and I know drinks get knocked over and patrons get kicked often. It happened to me once as I quietly informed a dancer that she was on her cycle and might want to change her outfit. A stiletto boot straight to the head as she jumped off the stage quickly. Some thanks, right? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif Anyway, I was under the impression that all dancers needed to be insured for situations like this. I’m guessing this is maybe a voluntary or state regulated issue.

  • joni1

    Member
    November 6, 2010 at 12:33 am

    I know some dancers here in Canada who work freelance. They pay the clubs $60. to be able to dance at the club. They are not insured by the club to perform, only their regular girls are insured. Its up to the freelance dancer to have their own liability insurance.

  • Poledancefan

    Member
    November 6, 2010 at 2:13 am

    I remember seeing an article about this in the newspaper and I thought the judgment was against the club, not the dancer. Lawyers only sue when there is a reasonable chance of getting a pay-off for insurance..or the conversion of a valuable asset–like a house, a property, or a restaurant. I’m not going to stereotype dancers and say it is completely impossible that a club dancer would have nearly three quarters of a million dollars in cash to pay damages, but it seems unlikely. But some states and municipalities do require bars ("dram-shops") to have dram shop and liability coverage. In Illinois there used to be a cap $40,00 per incident if it involves alcohol…not sure about other types of things or what the law is now.

    If you dance for money and own a house in a non real property protected state ( anywhere except TEXAS…..FLORIDA), then it might be an issue…or if you have some real cash sitting in the bank…like THOUSANDS…then, yes, insurance is a good idea. There is a reason why OJ Simpson keeps a house in Florida –it’s a judgment proof state–for houses, at least. But given the typical demography of the student, young female dancer putting herself through school…there isn’t going to be an asset to sue against in most cases. But I suppose it is a good idea to ask the club management about liability coverage for dancers anyway.

    Nowadays, everybody sues ANY deep pocket they can find. When the 100 people were killed in that bar fire (from the fireworks show) in (Rhode Island)?…they only had a few 100K of insurance–nowhere near enough to compensate the victim’s families. But there was an AMOCO station across the street (now BP) and the gas station guy used to let people just park their cars in his empty lot there while they were watching the bands play in the bar. As a result, the plaintiffs attorneys tried to link Amoco to the lawsuit, claiming the AMOCO corporation was "responsible" for the fireworks, explosion, and the deaths of the bar patrons. It was a very spurious claim, but AMOCO and successor BP spent a huge amount of legal fees getting the claim thrown out. Not to defend BP-AMOCO..ha ha, they are not my favorite folks necessarily…but it is absolutely clear that this ONE time, the palintiffs were hoping for a deep pocket…and BP-AMOCO had BILLIONS…whereas the bar owner barely had 5 bucks to his name…

    Joel

  • monica kay

    Member
    November 6, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/man-sues-strip-club-after-stiletto-wearing-dancer-kicks-his-face_100200833.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

    apparently, the dude smacked her butt.

    i feel like bouncers should be looking for such dangerous behavior & alert patrons of the risks. and then kick patrons out of club if they continue to act stupid

  • Serzi

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 8:23 am

    apparently, the dude smacked her butt.

    i feel like bouncers should be looking for such dangerous behavior & alert patrons of the risks. and then kick patrons out of club if they continue to act stupid

    While it makes me feel better to know that the club was sued and not the dancer, I still think that $650,000 is pretty steep for what that moron basically did to himself. There may have not been enough time for the bouncers to apprehend the guy before it happened and it is also possible, with injuries that severe, that the girl reacted more out of surprise than with malicious intent. Whatever, I hope he enjoys the crooked nose, permanent double-vision, and $650,000 he was awarded for being a jackass.

    "Boy, I bet you’d stick your head in the fire if I told you that you could see Hell."

    ~*Serzi

  • MrsNaughtywed

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    I’ve been in a couple strip clubs in my time and in the ones I’ve seen, the stripper poles are right beside where the people sit. When I’ve sat by the pole and a dancer came to use it, I would back up because it looked like common sense to move out of the way and not get close??? I don’t understand why the dancer got sued. Should the whole club get sued for not ensuring that there was distance between the dancer and customer???? Health and safefy? The dancer was just doing her job. Weird. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif

    …. just read the last post.. I’m glad it just wasn’t the stripper that got sued.

    Maybe they should make signs by the pole… "caution.. being too close to pole dancer may result in injury" lol.

  • monica kay

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    it was an effed up lawsuit and i think the club should appeal. (is that the correct legal term??) take it to the supreme court if necessary!!!

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