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    Posted by minicoopergrl on November 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Ive been thinking about this now since I can invert comfortably (still barefoot, but Ill get there). I dont know if its just me or what but I have to pysch myself up for it. I have to have my hands placed just right and do a 1,2,3 count, rocking my body to do it. Im trying to break myself from it since it wont look good during a performance and if I dont get to three and then invert then I dont get up there.

    Anyone else in the same boat or am I just to loco?

    Poleluver replied 14 years ago 9 Members · 12 Replies
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  • vamp79

    Member
    November 12, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    I thought i was the only one that had this problem. I don’t count to three but i do breathe in and out and think about it before i go up. I also can’t invert with shoes on which drives me bananas.

  • dustbunny

    Member
    November 13, 2010 at 2:29 am

    I used to have to do this as well…silly aint it? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
    Just practice, practice, practice, that’s what I did. You have to retrain your body and your brain. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
    I found working on the dead lift helped me a lot because you can’t step or rock into it, you are using just your arms and abs to lift yourself up. Hard to do but so worth it, it will help your ariel invert as well!

  • JayF1

    Member
    November 13, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    YAY!!! Glad I’m not the only one. It’s like having to psych yourself into it…and really don’t know why…as all moves, it gets smoother with each practice.

  • HannahElizabeth

    Member
    November 14, 2010 at 10:18 am

    I think I had this a bit too at first. Not counting but just "preparing" myself before going in for the kill!

    I’ll echo what the other girls have said in that practicing the dead lift will help but if you havent quite got the strength to do that yet, try to train yourself not to jump or psyche yourself up too much but doing it more slowly.

    So just rock forward once… then rock forward but not so much…. then eventually, with practice you will be able to do it without rocking at all and the dead lift will come https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

  • vamp79

    Member
    November 14, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Can you guys explain the dead lift? I have no idea what that is. Is there a lesson for it?
    I wanted to add that for the last twp days I have been trying to do a tiny body wave as i rock myself into it and now it doesnt look as bad since it looks like its part of the dance ; )

  • HannahElizabeth

    Member
    November 14, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    A dead lift is when you invert without "jumping" into it so to speak. So you literally use all your strength to lift yourself so that means no kicking and no rocking! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif

    I dont know if there are any lessons on it as I don’t have Veena’s lessons yet https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif I couldnt find any videos of a good deadlift invert form the floor but if you look at videos by people like Jenyne Butterfly, take note of how they invert… No kicks, just legs up https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif Thats what you’re aiming for with a deadlift

    It is quite hard a first but as always practice makes perfect and it looks a lot better, makes you look very strong and feels great the first time you do it https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/bom.gif

  • Veena

    Administrator
    November 14, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    All my lessons are taught without jumping https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif These will help you work on using no momentum. I also include tips for breathing when inverting so important. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_thumright.gif
    http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/5400

  • dustbunny

    Member
    November 14, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    I will see if I can explain how to do the dead lift basic invert, and I will add a link to my video on YT of me when I started doing them. It’s not pretty, it was literally the second one ever on my good side, and first on my weak side, but it will give you an idea of what to do.

    Stand to whichever side of your pole you want to invert on and get your hands in position. Not too high though, the higher your hands are the harder it is to get up there. My inside hand sits about my head/forehead height and outside hand right above. Now move your inside hip to the front of the pole. This is your starting position.

    From here, start by lifting your legs (no jumping!) tucking your knees up to your chest and holding for a couple seconds. Once you can do this then you have to be able to lift your hips. Doing it from a tucked position is easier than doing it with legs extended. So work your way up to it, start with the tuck. Go into your tuck, and tilt your head back as you lift your hips with your core strength. As you tilt back, extend your legs up and grab the pole as you normally would when you invert.

    It is not easy to do so don’t feel too frustrated or disappointed if you don’t get this one right away. Just keep practicing. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

    http://www.youtube.com/user/spinbunny?feature=mhum#p/u/15/JFOIlfm7Uag

  • vamp79

    Member
    November 15, 2010 at 12:09 am

    Thanks for explaining the dead lift ladies, I will start practicing that tomorrow. I don’t exactly kick into my inverts but I do rock back and forth at least one. I think this is why I can’t do the chopper still, because I am using a bit of momentum still.

  • horsecrazy12987

    Member
    November 15, 2010 at 1:49 am

    Upper body strength training will help enormously when pulling yourself up into an invert, aside from abs training. I inverted only about two weeks into dancing because I just couldn’t resist the temptation anymore, but I was very careful about it and went very slowly and cautiously. I never had a problem jumping into any of my inverts because I’ve done chin-ups for a long, long time, and to me it was basically the same thing except on a vertical bar. You don’t want to use your legs at all; you should just be engaging your abs and your arm muscles and pulling hard with your hands. I might try and post a video of a dead lift basic invert too, if I remember; maybe that will help you guys to see a couple of different people do it.

    I would really suggest doing some kind of upper body training, though. It will help you a lot in any of your moves. Also, to prep yourself to move into an invert, try doing pole ups, which is pretty much just like it sounds. Stand facing your pole, grab it in a basic grip, lift your feet off the ground so your thighs are touching the pole and then pull yourself up. Repeat as many times as you can. If you can’t pull yourself all the way, just go as far as you can and keep doing that. That will build up the kind of strength you need to do a dead lift invert.

  • moonflower

    Member
    November 16, 2010 at 5:17 am

    I don’t have basic insert superstition but I do have SM superstition. I HAVE to bend my right knee before I invert. I think I used to use the momentum a bit, but now I can lift into it, but I still have to lift into it with one leg bent. I notice some other girls do this as well.

    I think with any move, once a you train your body and mind to do it one way, it’s hard to change, It’s mostly in the head I think.

  • Poleluver

    Member
    November 21, 2010 at 1:40 am

    I’ve also had to work against the head part for inverting, now I’ve got to work myself into the theigh pain involved in holding the invert once up before sliding down and hands free. It hurts just like the pole sit did at first when I couldn’t imagine it not hurting. Any advice. My instructor must be ready to kill me! LOL

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