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    Posted by zoeyxxxx on November 6, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Ok I’ve been working on my handspring and an trying to figure out wich is the easyer but also safer one. Normal handspring I seem to get no where with but twisted grip I get up but isn’t it quite dangerouse too. Also I’m trying aysha would you say split grip forearm or elbow worked for you. Any help info tutorial or just your own views would be great 🙂

    triki2u replied 12 years, 5 months ago 8 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Elektra Vallens

    Member
    November 6, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Well, some people stay away from twisted grip because it's bad for your wrists.  The normal split grip handspring is very different.  Have you looked at Veena's lesson for that?  I found it very helpful.  As for elbow grip vs. forearm grip ayesha, I prefer elbow, but everyone's different.

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    November 6, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    I think I need to upgrade my mebership to view lessons but not sure how to do that I’m in her through my phone . What about a split grip aysha I’ve been trying it from EB or is split grip harder than the other two

  • megan12

    Member
    November 6, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Personally, I think split grip is harder than elbow grip. I'll still can't do straight up split grip ayesha, only from an extended butterfly. I think the elbow grip is more secure and balancing is a bit easier. I've been working on handsprings and I've been working on the split grip because I feel like twisted grip puts a lot of strain on my shoulder.

  • amy

    Member
    November 6, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    I would strongly recommend that you have a solid ayesha in any grip before working on the handspring, so that you understand the positioning and engagement required to keep yourself up.

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    November 6, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Zoey….you are at 2 months into your pole journey,  you should not be working on handsprings, especially since it already looks as though your have injured your wrist.  Can you even hold a split grip upright properly?

  • Veena

    Administrator
    November 6, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    The lessons here are viewable on most smart phones. If you have been nursing an injury please make sure you give yourself time to heal! Handsprings are very advanced. 

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    November 7, 2012 at 4:13 am

    Hi would just like to say first I have not injured any wrist when I started poling I didn’t understand the bracket grip amy corrected me on this I was holding all the weight on the bottom arm witch was causing a shooting pain in the wrist I wasn’t pulling with the top arm. Hey chem I understand your worry as I have only been polling for 3 month. I had a lot of physical fitness before starting pole witch has helped a lot with my classes. I pole 5 nites a week for 2 to three hours and do strenth training 3 days a week. At my pole class a lot of people are amazed at what I can do since only beeing there so short. But I think everyone learns at diffrent speeds and pole just seem to come very naturly to me.I hold split grip perfectly fine.

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    November 7, 2012 at 4:27 am

    Everywhere I look for ayesha tutorial I can only find elbow grip nuthing else and I’m not to keen on elbow grip. I started the hand bring so I slowly learn this I can go up on twisted grip and hold for a few secounds in a took but I read sumwhere that it can be putting a lot of strain on joints so dnt want to do it that way tbh. But my pole teacher is about to have a baby and most people in my class do it that way so there no one to show me the normal way. My ayesha just seems to scare me in elbow grip or forarm where as split grip is very comfortable I feel totaly safe so trying to work it from EB. Think I’m gone have a look at veenas lessons.

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    November 7, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    Found where I’m going wrong in the splitgrip ayesha I wasn’t tilting my head bk I was trying to look up so can now hold it in tuck 🙂 amazing how one small alteration changes things 🙂

  • triki2u

    Member
    November 7, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    Can you shoulder mount? If not, you need to start there because a good Ayesha needs to have core to control it. Handspring is unstable if the core is not strong enough to support. start with shoulder mount and then re visit handspring since handspring can really wreck your wrist and shoulder if you keep trying it over and over and not able to do it. Shoulder mount creates core control and does not dynamically wreck your shoulders.

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    November 8, 2012 at 3:33 am

    He tricki yes I can do shoulder mount. I do my core training in straight leg lift and a tuck bk down can’t do straight leg no down yet it brings me down to fast were I want to be cuming down slowly to give me the chance to go back up again . I’m working on my backhook into shoulder mount to but its not there yet. Xxx

  • Hazelnut

    Member
    November 9, 2012 at 11:09 am

    I know you say you're strong enough, but often there is really not much correlation between being good at one move and learning another quickly, even if they use the same muscles. This is especially true if they're balance-y moves like ayesha! So don't assume that because you can do alot of moves at level X you should be able to do all of them! If you can do SG ayesha but are finding TG or elbow/forearm hard, then you probably just need time to get used to which core muscles are required and also to find the balance sweet spot. Handsprings are also SO dependent on balance and most people take months to get it right. Don't rush and enjoy yourself!

  • zoeyxxxx

    Member
    November 9, 2012 at 11:38 am

    hi hazle thank you foryour comment. The reason I posted this disscussion is for all your great advice. My promlem with elbow grip and forearm is my lower arm just does not feel safe. Were as split grip I seem to have cracked the push pull and feel totaly safe.gone try handspringw cumins down from the pole first see how I get on with that 🙂 xxx

  • triki2u

    Member
    November 9, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    With all those tricks you mention it definitely makes a difference where you look. Handspring, you look up. EG Ayesha definitely look up otherwise you do not round your back and the lower arm does not feel right. Split Grip people look up or down depending on which way they are headed. Most of the time I look up tho because it makes you tuck your hips more, which helps balance. 

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