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    Posted by Glamourize on March 28, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Ok so i recently just looked at a new comp to enter into and there are 3 pole catagories…

    Pole beginner- must not have entered in a comp before, no inverts, hips to be below shoulders at all times.

    Pole Inters- may have performed before in amateur and not placed top 3, Dancers may invert and leg hang but there must be 3 points of contact (IE Extended butterfly OK, Split Grip Ayesha NOT)

    Pole Open (Advanced)- open to semi professionals and previous competers that have placed top 3 in amatuer or semi professional intermediate level of under top 3 in advanced.

    OK so here is where i am at:

    I feel as though there should be a level inbetween pole inters and pole open because i feel Im at the point where I can do more tricks then 3 points of contact but I'm not at the level of open where girls last year could do TG dead lifts, pole splits, Iron X's and real crazy stuff!!  and on top of that i couldnt go in pole open cos last year i went in intermediates but didnt place top 3 any way..

    So i'm stuck in the middle here not sure If I want to compete because If i enter in intermediates I won't be able to show everyone what I really can do 🙁  which sucks

    So my question to you SV's before I decide is:

    What moves that have 3 points of contact do you think I could put in a routine that could 'WOW' the judges?

    RobynPoleDancer replied 10 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • CapFeb

    Member
    March 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    allegra, bendy diva dive, and batwing. Keem looks impressive but is really easy. I also love Marlo’s superman variation. The on top leg in superman actually goes behind her. Kinda like a pole split facing toward the floor but the bottom leg is passe’d. a
    Titanic with the feet off the pole is also awesome 🙂

  • CapFeb

    Member
    March 28, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    do jade, machine gun, and chopsticks count?

  • Kyrsten

    Member
    March 28, 2013 at 11:08 pm

    That rule is a bit strange to me.. there are tons of super advanced moves with 3+ poc while some tricks that aren't as advanced might have less… I mean heck, a spatchcock has more than 3 LOL.

    – Shoulder mounts (if two each hand is 1 POC)… there are tons of shoulder mount variations to work with and some are pretty advanced (ie shoulder mount planche, the trapped leg SM split thing…)

    – Iguana/pencil/bow and arrow type tricks… two hands and a shoulder again… or U-bend would be another mount that has two hands and a foot

    – As for bendy tricks… allegra, various types of pole splits, twisted ballerinas and variations, Russian/oona split, closed scorpio or gemini, banana splits, bridge/crescents, chopsticks 

    – other stuff: marley, extended genie (with the elbows hooked), superman, remi + variations

    But keep in mind that execution is important too and in many competitions big tricks won't necessarily get you any further than very fluid and well executed tricks with slightly less difficulty 🙂 Depends on the comp of course, but read the scoring guidelines carefully. 

    And think about it this way too: having to have 3 POC on the pole at all times should definitely challenge your creativity! I was thinking of some interesting combinations just writing this out. 

  • Kyrsten

    Member
    March 28, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    I also think PPC (Pacific Pole Championships) has that same rule for their level 2 competitions, so looking up those performances on YouTube may also help.

  • PoleMoves

    Member
    December 18, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    They have added two more levels so this should help you out as well. check out: polesportorganization.

    They really are amazing competitions!

  • PoleMoves

    Member
    December 18, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Here is my video where I got 3rd in Level 3 Championship Seniors. But when I did Dramatic Level 3, I got first. It is fun that they have different categories.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXtCcivnO5s‎

  • RobynPoleDancer

    Member
    December 20, 2013 at 5:58 am

    This is an easy answer.
    You enter Intermediate. You already said that there are moves that you can’t do for the top category – so you wouldn’t be competing to win anyway.

    From my experience as a judge (for this comment, in amateur competitions) there are a lot of competitors who put themselves in a higher category just because they can do one or two advanced level tricks and want to show them off. But their polish and execution tend to let them down.
    Just because you can do some advanced level tricks does not mean that is where you should compete.

    You should TRAIN at the very top of your ability, to push yourself. But COMPETE in your perfection level – the tricks you can do with your eyes closed.
    There is nothing worse than having to watch competitors attempt moves in competition (stressful situation) that are not 100% perfect. This attracts the attention of the judge that the move wasn’t performed perfectly, and you will get a lower mark, even if the trick is super-hard.
    Especially in the top category, the judges will be looking for exceptional pole work in all aspects.

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