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  • nemesis move. ugh!!

    Posted by garynnnjb5232 on October 11, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    I can invert with control, gemeni, scorpio, crucifix hang, and catipillar. I just cant, for the life of me, grasp the technique of catipillar climbing.
    Its like my POC start to disappear once i try and scoot my legs up. Im confused on how to hold the pole with my forearm. My legs start slipping off, etc. What am i doing wrong? 🙁

    garynnnjb5232 replied 9 years ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Phoenix Hunter

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 2:02 am

    i don’t feel I’m a good source to tell you how to caterpillar climb but I wanted to share that I can’t caterpillar climb with a forearm grip at all but I can do it with an elbow grip. I feel like I really don’t understand the forearm grip at all. I will follow this thread and see what others say bout it. The caterpillar climb requires a lot more strength than a regular caterpillar too.

  • garynnnjb5232

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 8:13 am

    @pheonixhunter whats the difference between a forearm grip and an elbow grip

  • Tigerschic041721

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    I feel the same about my POC 😩 Someone told me to look up towards the ceiling when scooting…didn’t really help me but maybe for you!

  • garynnnjb5232

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    @tiger im gonna try it but huuuuuuh im so frustrated lol ….

  • Veena

    Administrator
    October 12, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    When doing caterpillar or moves like Ayesha that require balance I look down towards the floor or the pole, looking up is usually disorientating…usually for some it might work.

    The key to a strong caterpillar climb is having a secure grip with the upper body, of course! When climbing in caterpillar this means not moving the body straight out away from the pole, but rather off to the side and over towards the shoulder of the bent arm, this is super important to know and will safe you having to muscle through a Cat. Climb. When, using a forearm grip you literally feel like you’re hugging the pole, and for either grip the shoulder of the bent arm will more towards the pole, NOT stay in the center….the lesson has a visual for this.

    As for the 2 grips elbow and forearm it seems people with longer limbs like forearm (not all but in general) and shorter feel secure in elbow. My guess would be with longer limbs it’s nice to have extra stability with the forearm and hand, because you are farther from the pole than if you had shorter arms. Nether is right or wrong. But the technique is a bit different as far as where the body moves to, as in center or more off the the side of the pole. People are often surprised at how much easier the caterpillar climb is when done this way. I talk about both grips in these lessons….

    Forearm grip https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d10f457-834c-45b0-8448-3b550ac37250

    Elbow grip https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d136614-c770-45fc-aa64-24320ac37250

    Phoenix, a common misunderstanding with the forearm grip is assuming the entire forearm to the wrist, should run along the pole and nothing else (other than hand) is used a POC. However, you DO use the elbow pit in addition to the hand. Depending on the structure of the arm bones some will have significant pole contact with the forearm, and other not much at all. I’m thinking of making a lesson to look closer at these two options. 🙂 You can think of it as an elbow grip then rotating the shoulder allowing you to grip the pole.

  • Phoenix Hunter

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Forearm grip uses the hand and forearm , elbow grip uses the crease of the elbow- no hand is used in the elbow grip. Difficult to explain with words. If you are able to get the lessons here I really recommend them. She shows all the different grips for Ayesha. I just can’t get the forearm grip yet, but usually that is the first grip people use when learning Ayesha. When you are doing a caterpillar climb your arms/ hands are holding all your weight. The legs stay around the pole but aren’t really holding any weight while you do the climb. After you scoot your legs up, then you regrasp the pole with your legs. It might be helpful if you post a video of your caterpillar (non-climbing ) to make sure that looks right before trying the caterpillar climb .

  • Phoenix Hunter

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Thank you Veena. I think I understand but that would be very helpful if one day you could do a video for forearm grip. I was thinking it was hand and forearm like you mentioned.

  • garynnnjb5232

    Member
    October 12, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    Im gonna try veena.

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