StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions 40mm X-Pole

  • Veena

    Administrator
    December 28, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Hi Riddle, to answer the question you asked…… I would contact Xpole they should be able to give you more info on the availability of the new 40mm. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif

  • polefairy

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Veena, in your experience would it be difficult to dance on a 40mm when I'm used to a 50mm?. I find 50mm is very big  (though I'm very small myself). 

  • Veena

    Administrator
    December 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Polefairy, I have never used a 40mm, but I have used a smaller 38 and liked it. There's some adjustment when performing some leg grips (not all) things like the adv Ballerina are much easier on a smaller pole! I really never use my 50mm poles anymore. I plan on getting the 40mm at some point. I think you would like it. 

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Riddle – I called x pole last week about this and they said they would be getting them in a week, so they should have them by now. They will be the same price as the other chrome x perts.

  • polefairy

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Brilliant, thank you! Will let you know how it is if I do get one. Fingers crossed for Taxback in Feb! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    I always giggle when people refer to "real" or "genuine" brass…as if any of the pole companies use "fake" brass?

    Funny too that  I was told that a brass pole was too soft to use on it's own without a steel reinforcement…which is why my brass PS pole snapped in half 3 days after I got it with my original stage pole and I was told over the phone that I should never have ordered it without the reinforced lining as "everyone" knows brass is too soft to be used at that height on a stage pole…not sure though why it was sold that way .

     

    Anyway…the original question was about the 40mm pole – they are due in either this week or next from what I was told. The difference in size is about 1/4 inch as the 45mm is approx 1.77 inches and the 40 is 1.57 inches.

     

  • MadisonsWorld

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    I said real because some people think the xpole tg is brass..when it isn’t brass at all…or brass plated..I consider that not real brass..to me a REAL brass pole is just brass,not plated,the club quality poles..not saying there is fake brass,but there is brass like,tg, poles out there…so I guess that could b considered fake brass..

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    I would not consider titanium fake brass and XPole has never tried to pass it off as brass. It's titanium and that's all it's ever been presented as.

    The brass on the brass XPole is real and it is genuine. And as proven poles that are not steal lined are not as sturdy. Just like my "real genuine" brass pole from PS as you can see here 3 days after I got it:

    http://empowermentthroughexoticdance.com/BrokenPSPole.JPG
     

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    excuse my typo: Should be "steel"

  • MadisonsWorld

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I wasn’t saying that xpole was passing it off as brass…and I haven’t seen a xpole with genuine brass..??? Want a brass thates y I ask…but some consider it a brass…or fake brass…not arguing with you,just saying..

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    December 28, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    XPole actually  makes a brass pole and it's genuine…not fake brass. I"ve never heard of anyone who thought that the titanium was anything but titanium.

  • PoleDollqld

    Member
    December 29, 2011 at 6:18 am

    I have to laugh at all this hoopla about genuine metals from people who have no idea about what it takes to engineer something that even your 200kg nana can hop on – yet is has to be löight enough for you to take up & down all the time!!!

    XPOLE brass is as geniune ( or as fake ) as Platinum Stages. brass.. They are both brass , of different compisition.. You may not enjoy the brass used by XPOLE or Platinum… This doesnt mean its not real brass.. Here is a list of metal ( found on the web) I doubt it will change your mind about Xpoles use of 'FAKE BRASS' but at least you can appear somewhat educated. Brass types

    Admiralty brass contains 30% zinc and 1% tin which inhibits dezincification in most environments.

    Alpha brasses (Prince's metal), with less than 35% zinc, are malleable, can be worked cold, and are used in pressing, forging, or similar applications. They contain only one phase, with face-centered cubic crystal structure.

    Alpha-beta brass (Muntz metal), also called duplex brass, is 35-45% zinc and is suited for hot working. It contains both α and β' phase; the β'-phase is body-centered cubic and is harder and stronger than α. Alpha-beta brasses are usually worked hot.

    Aluminium brass contains aluminium, which improves its corrosion resistance. Used in Euro coins (Nordic gold).

    Arsenical brass contains an addition of arsenic and frequently aluminium and is used for boiler fireboxes.

    Beta brasses, with 45-50% zinc content, can only be worked hot, and are harder, stronger, and suitable for casting.

    Cartridge brass is a 30% zinc brass with good cold working properties.

    Common brass, or rivet brass, is a 37% zinc brass, cheap and standard for cold working.

    DZR brass is Dezincification resistant Brass with a small percentage of Arsenic.

    Gilding metal is the softest type of brass commonly available. An alloy of 95% copper and 5% zinc, gilding metal is typically used for ammunition components.

    High brass, contains 65% copper and 35% zinc, has a high tensile strength and is used for springs, screws, rivets.

    Leaded brass is an alpha-beta brass with an addition of lead. It has excellent machinability.

    Low brass is a copper-zinc alloy containing 20% zinc with a light golden color, excellent ductility and is used for flexible metal hoses and metal bellows.

    Naval brass, similar to admiralty brass, is a 40% zinc brass and 1% tin.

    Red brass, while not technically brass, is an American term for CuZnSn alloy known as gunmetal.

    Rich low brass contains 85% copper 15% zinc often used in jewelry applications .

    White brass contains more than 50% zinc and is too brittle for general use.

    Yellow brass is an American term for 33% zinc brass.

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    December 29, 2011 at 7:37 am

    Holy Crap Empy!!  I cannot believe that snap!  I would freak out!

     

    PoleDollqld…you are cracking me up!  I am usually the one who posts the sarcastic metal contents….

     

    Erica, are you going to tell me that PS makes the adjuster rod and adjuster cover out of brass and there is no reinforcement whatsoever at the top or bottom of the pole?  How does your brass withstand the forces that are applied especially at these points?  How are you not stripping the threads on the adjuster cover and rod when you secure the pole…do you also have a brass locking nut?  This is what I meant that you have steel parts or some other type of metal and that your brass poles are not all brass.

  • MadisonsWorld

    Member
    December 29, 2011 at 9:10 am

    I am not on here to argue…no I am not a metal expert or chemist..but tg is not brass,but it electrically charged to simulate brass..and nowhere do I see where xpole makes a brass pole..in fact,I have personall calles them a few weeks ago to ask abt a studio here in my town who said @ first they had brass xpoles,and xpole confirmed they do not have brass only tg and they just started making them abt 2 yrs ago..the studio owner reconfirmed they r brass and not xpole…don’t know if they make xpole brass in other countries,but not here in the us…again,I am not here to argue,but was interested in a brass pole,that is y I asked u abt xpole and y I had called them.

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    December 29, 2011 at 9:20 am

    I'm gonna chime in for a second…I love my PS pole to death, I wouldn't consider it a flaw to have it reinforced with a steel rod through the center to give it extra strength. Bobbi's poles in Australia does that with the 38mm's. I do not consider that a flaw in any way but just an added quality assurance (sorry for the biotech speak.)

    Now with regards to the x pole being a brass. Yes, they have brass poles. The debate comes in with is it plated or is it solid brass (whether reinforced with a lining or not)? There was some conflict with what customer service was converying to the customers, Just becuase the x pole is lined doesn't mean it isn't a solit brass pole. Like it was said before, the joints would strip brass, so they need to reinforce the poles with t astronger metal to make them safe and sturdy. 

    It IS important to know whether your brass pole is "solid" or plated in regards to care, because you are not supposed to use brasso, or similar products on brass plated products.

    That is my 2 cents. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif

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