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Advice on the Marion Amber?
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Maybe my issue is the grip??? I've been trying it from a basic split grip – I don't think I'd want to use TG for this…I will play tomorrow and see if I can nail it with true grip…
@Sass – I know what you mean I am very obsessed with this move too!!! I cannot watch it enough times – it's sooooo pretty and mind boggling.
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@sassafrassle: I tried it again yesterday with a split grip and although I grip also quite far apart with my hands I was able to let my leg slide out a bit. I´ll look whether I catched it on video and upload it
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i found the try where I let my leg slide a bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Td1j5mbMHc&feature=youtu.be
I´m sure you can even let it slide out further, I just was not brave enough as it was the first try =)
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YAY something new to try I can't wait!!!! How pretty! it's sorta like a confused allegra LOL
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Charley- did you figure how to get upside down? I used the split grip too..but I can't get upside down either, and i wonder if my short arms and big booty are throwing of my leverage. A student last week and an instructor of mine showed me this clip and i thought it was a variation of an inverted split i learned from bad ass 2 years ago but…surprise, it's totally different lol.. i will post a vid for sure when i get it.
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Skittles vid was great! I liked how the true grip kept her joints in alignment, the twisted grip looked like a potential injury for me.https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
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It looks like you go into allegra then upside down allegra extension and your hand for support on the bottom as you face the pole like when you push into the cradle to butterfly/ special K = Marion Amber
That's how I am processing that move.
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Here is another video I made. https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4f200e94-6e8c-48f6-8892-03830ac37250
This is also posted in the description for you all.
1 Advance Star
2 Press hips away from the pole, Top hand move into True grip, Torso rotates towards the floor, bottom hand reaches Waaay down to the foot. By this point hips are squared or almost squared.
3 Push pull with hands, keeping hips away, while the bottom leg lifts up…only lift the leg once you feel balanced in your push pull.
4 grip the pole between the knees, while at the same time maintaining squared the hips, as if to move into butterfly continuing with push pull
5 once you have your balance extend the free leg over head.
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I just spent 45 minutes on this move – it ain't happening for me – I don't think I'm ever going to get it – so now I have to convince myself I don't want it lol!!!! Great vid Veena.
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Booo on the frustrating practice! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif I know you could do this one Charley. But there is nothing wrong with stepping back from a move, to just think it over in your head a while before giving it another try. Continuing to try something when your frustrated with it isn't fun!
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I've been most successful entering from the shoulder mount into a pike position, then gripping up behind me with one hand and bracketing down with the other.
I tried the cupped hold (true grip) today and it was much easier. That's the closest I've gotten on it but I'm very comfortable with true grip to begin with.
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Empyrean, I had someone suggest trying to get into the move kinda similarly to you but doing the pike from an inverted crucifix, as if you were going to do the superman that way. I found trying that way meant that the pole was too far back along my thighs (ie. closer to crotch than knees) so I'm trying to envisage where you end up from in piking from the shoulder mount – I don't suppose you have a vid of it?
Charley, every time I think I've figured out what I'm doing wrong with this move, I try it again and have just the same problems! I am determined to get it and you're waaaaaaaaaaay more advanced than me so I have full faith that you'll get there!!
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I can picture the inverted crucifix entry. I wanna try that too now! I can't totally picture the shoulder mount into it, are you removing a hand or threading the leg through the hands as you come up into SM? And how are you getting a bottom hand in place?
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maybe you could push out from a pike position with the leg like veena did it in her new video? otherwise I also think you would be to close to the pole
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Oh I just had a thought, Empy are you going from SM into like a superman/pike gripping the pole in between the legs, then brining a hand down below, while keeping the other hand in place?
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