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Apology for Praise Dance Videos
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I see pole dance as being like any other form of expressive or interpretive art. Such forms of creativity can vary immensely in their content and purpose. Photography is a perfect example–ranging from its commercial use in advertising, to artistic portraiture, still life, nature photography, yearbook snapshots, and even pornography. Criticizing the entire field of pole dancing because some pole dancing is sexual and erotic is like banning high school yearbook pictures because they are taken with the same kind of 35mm lens used to take the pictures in Playboy!
I think there is a time and a place for everything. I certainly enjoy sexy, club style pole dance (although I haven’t visited a club yet)…but I also get into the gymnastic "tricks" videos, and the ladies who style their performances more in the tradition of ballet or jazz dancing. I admire the tough ladies who dance in clubs–I think that takes the kind of sheer guts and confidence that I wish I could muster up in certain situations in my own life!
I am not a formally religious person, but I was raised in the Christian tradition and respect everyone who seeks the Divine in any way that is serious minded and respectful. I saw Jungle Cat’s vid a few minutes after he uploaded it. I found his movements in the dance projected a feeling of strength and contemplation. He set just the right tone to match the Gospel music playing in the background.
In my second comment uploaded to the re-posted video, I made reference to another poler who has courageously used pole dancing to acknowledge serious events and personal grief–Shelly of ExDiva69 Channel. She has done an awesome tribute to the victims of 9-11 and also done a few videos marking some VERY difficult personal tragedies–the worst thing you could ever imagine– in a way that has been tasteful, uplifting, and moving.
Joel
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i didn’t see that EXACT video jungle, but you shouldn’t apologize for being yourself and expressing yourself. if someone has an issue with a youtube vid or whatever, it’s THEIR issue, not yours. you keep on doing what you’ve been doing honey, we love you here- there’s no reason why you should have to defend yourself over someone elses close-mindedness.
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It makes me really sad to hear that. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif
Dancing is an expression of yourself that comes from the soul. Happy, sad, in love, thankful for your salvation through Christ………… You should not have to apologize for any of that. The dance was beautiful and I didn’t see anything that could be taken as inappropriate. You need to keep rockin the pole and dance to anything that moves you. No ones opinion counts except yours. You know where you stand with Christ and MANY people in the bible danced to give praise to him. This is just a different style of dance. I think he is proud of you and the beautiful way you express your love for him.I am posting this on the videos comments as well. I want others that are not in the forum to hear my opinion on the matter.
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Criticizing the entire field of pole dancing because some pole dancing is sexual and erotic is like banning high school yearbook pictures because they are taken with the same kind of 35mm lens used to take the pictures in Playboy!
Joel this is my favourite quote about pole dancing so far! Well done! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gifAnd Christa, I loved your post!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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Jungle – I didn’t see your vid however being a christian I would have enjoyed seeing it.
Let’s face it – When yoga was big a lot of Christians were against it because of it’s past steeped in Eastern Relgion however Christians cam to embrace it and use the exercise both physically to improve themselves and the meditation to connect with God.
I did a praise vid myself and received no comment – I dedicated it to my Dad and a good friend who has always been there spiritually for me. They inspire me to pursue my relationship with God and be a better Christian. I didn’t feel as if anyone should be offended in anyway Iw as expressing my joy for having a loving God in my life and His blessing of people who support that.
God is praised through Dance (see 1 Samuel) and song (Psalms) Go to Exodus and read about how the Israelites danced and praised God as they were freed from hard bondage. Art is beautiful and favored by God – consider this – look around the planet – not only does God love to create but he has a sense of humor (duck bill platypus anyone?) The author of the universe CREATED us, CREATED the birds who sing and GAVE US THE ABILITY to likewise create and procreate.
It’s sad that the church as a whole – as the body of Christ (all religions) feel the need to fight amongst ourselvs and judge rather than realizing that we all have something to be held accountable. We’ve all sinned. Read Mathew – if you have an issue with your brother you are to speak with him about it. God gives us the rules of how to deal with someone in the flock that may be doing something wrong/unhealthy.sinful. Even if these people felt you were being sinful – should they not have taken you aside and privately spoken with you about it and given you the oppotunity to explain.
Bashing someone isn’t being a Christian and it isn’t letting your light shine. No matter how someone feels about pole dance as Christians we are REQUIRED to handle things in a Godly manner and sort them out with help of the Holy Spirit.
Jungle – I think you should continue to include God in every single aspect of your life. Once we start cutting Him out of things in our life we begin to fall away from Him and lose our connection. I think you should continue your praise of God in a joyful manner as you have. Who knows? Maybe God is using you and your praise pole dance this very second to inspire someone who may not otherwise have thought of God today. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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It’s been a while since I popped into the SV forum, and I’m glad I came across this thread! JC, I posted on one of your vids on YT already, but I admire you for standing up for your beliefs, and I agree with everyone else here when i echo the sentiments that you should NEVER apologize for praising Christ!!!
I really was happy to see all the other Christians on this forum… sometimes in the world of pole I can feel quite alone in that respect… like I’m the only spirit filled Christian out there poling… And I too have wanted to pole to worship or praise music but I’ve kinda felt like combining those two parts of my world is not okay. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_redface.gif I guess what saddens me there is that I know that my faith does not just sit on a shelf and only come out on Sundays… so why should I not think that it’s all intimately involved in EVERY aspect of my life… including pole!?
I also was encouraged by Foxy when she said that it’s okay to make it sexy and there’s nothing wrong with that. I struggle with that sometimes b/c I love the sensuality of pole too… I embrace all aspects of it… but my vids on YT are not intended to turn men on, or make anyone stumble in their walk with Christ… I don’t intend for them to be that way, and I guess that I struggle with posting them b/c I don’t want them to have that effect, but I really do love to share what I love, so I do.
I can’t wait until I can comfortably have my Fiance come to my pole performances and not worry that I’m making it harder for him as we wait until we’re married to explore what God has gifted to us with our relationship. That’s another hard area… I want him to see what I love, and I certainly love performing with him, but I don’t want to feed his sumo sex drive unnecessarily right now. (If anyone’s read "Every Young Man’s Battle" you’ll get the Sumo reference- Great book by the way for the guys and girls trying to keep the God perspective on relationships and sex).
So that said, my pole has been a struggle when it comes to tying it into my beliefs, but this thread and Jungle Cat, you’ve all inspired me to do some praise dance… if i can comfortably tie it together that way I think it will go a long way to helping me embrace all that pole is meant to be in my life. Thank you for that!!
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