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Argh… Looking for new pole! Help!
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No, you didn't miss anything. The site doesn't list the old style anywhere. That's why I would just call the m directly. When I ordered mine, I bought if off one of their Ebay listings. The picture was of the old style so that is what I thought I was getting. When they emailed me the invoice it was for the new top loading version. So I called them and told them that was not what I wanted. They tried to convince me into getting the new style and the sales rep did say that the new style could be top or bottom loading. I wasn't convinced though, and insisted on buying the old style, and they were able to accomodate me. Someone on thisforum mentioned that you could order the top loading version by listing top loading in the comment section when you order, but I would be wary of that.
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Haha… it took me until now to figure it out! You're jnybeth! 🙂 I am subscribed to you on youtube!
Anyways, I have horrible luck calling PS, I might be blacklisted in fact, because Kevin ignores me like it's his job. Maybe it is, and if so, well done Kevin. I think the new style top loaders are really just the same pole, machined so that the threads are inverted? Can anyone back that up? It can't possibly be as simple as the couplers inverted on the pole, can it?
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Okay, I did a little bit of searching and found the member on here that I had spoken to about the new PS poles being reversable. i don't think she is an active member anymore, but here is a link to one of her vids, and you can see it the new style and there is no adjuster cover, so i am thinking the screw is at the top, even though you can't see the top of the pole. So even if they don't supply the old styles anymore, I am sure you can make it work with the new version… https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/4dc61f7c-0270-46ee-844c-1e7a0ac37250
Yes, I am jnybeth on Youtube! I also rememver your vids from back in the day when you were at Brassy. I have friends in Portland that you probably know, (Aimee, Ozzy) and go there to visit every so often. It's too bad you moved away, i wouldhave liked to jam with ya! 🙂
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well i will just add that when my pole arrived, my husband and our neighbor decided to put it up while i was at work. and when i came home, the pole was upside down! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif i was like, typical men, not reading the directions! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_safesex.gif it looked so stupid with the sleeve up there at the top.
but it was totally secure! note: i have the vaulted ceiling mount.
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Hmmm. I suppose it could be that easy.
I know Aimee, she was my very first pole teacher and totally inspired me to stick with pole! I don’t know Ozzy personally but I know of her. I still go back to brassy everytime I get the chance. I love dancing there. It’s so great!!! I am usually there with Webstwe, luckygirl1220, and poisoned ballerina.
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I follow Webstwe and Luckygirl on Youtube! Don't know of poisoned ballerina, isshe on youtube too?
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Yep! I think her handle is… poisonedballerina. Very dance-y. We started class at the same time and have been at it for the whole time.
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The XJoints are a pain…the screw together joints were a pain. Everyone complained about the old XPole design. As mentioned there is no perfect multi-piece pole and I believe that's because it's very difficult to design one with so many components to consider without having some issues.
Yes, you can see the joint turning by checking the little holes on the side of the pole. When you first put it up check it more often – like after an hour or two…then a few hours…then a day or so later. Then just every week or so if you still haven't had to fix it.
The only times I've heard of the joints flaring is when someone installed the pole higher than 11 feet. I own and use 7 XPerts in my studio since they first came out almost two years ago…none of the joints are flared.
I also feel the XJoints make the connection between the two sections more solid than it was on the old model with the threaded joints.
I've used several multi piece PS poles – both old and new design and I feel the stainless on the multi piece pole does not grip as well as the PS one-piece pole and others say the same.
That slide cover is dangerous. Not only does it move/turn if you grab it, but the way it protrudes can hurt you as you slide down. Worst – I saw someone pivot close to the base of it and her toe went "underneath" the slide cover at the floor and tore a chunk out of her toe!!
Also the chrome finish peels off the slide cover and dome of the PS pole.
The locking pin is a definite advantage but I've seen some PS poles where the locking pin jams and you can't so easily pull it out. There are just too many issues in my opinion with the PS multi-piece.
If you want a one piece go with PoleDanzer or PS (if you can put up with PS's customer service) and if you want a multi-piece XPole is my recommendation.
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If they could only combine lylmynx's prolite design with the dome top and PS's pin mechanism, then we'd have the perfect pole!
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call me crazy but… maybe you could order the PS multi piece, use it upside down, and with the old metal dome and bottom?
my PS multi piece (ordered in the last year) grips VERY well, but its' a 45mm… i've heard of grip issues, but they were all with the 50mm. i think that their polishing is different for the two diameters…
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Thanks for your advice Empyrean! I know that multipiece poles can be inherently unstable at the joints. But because I have owned two different ones that have not had joint problems, it really seems silly that now I can't buy a newer better designed pole without joint problems. I have never had a problem with the stainless steel being slippery in their multipieces once they are broken in after being bought new. Initially, they are slippery, but stainless steel is my metal of choice. I totally agree on that plastic chrome garbage that they keep adding to the pole, first the plates, then the sleeve, etc. complete junk. I have never had a problem with the locking pin in my home or at any studio, but I have had trouble with the xpole screws at the studio. I wish Xpole was made with that same stainless as the PS poles. Because their chrome is definitely a turn off to me.
Amy, in theory, I suppose a pole could just be used upside down, but the PS top and bottom plates do not have the same coupler, so they can only be used at their specifically designed locations. Which would mean the bigger plate would have to be on the floor and the smaller plate with the pin locking system would have to be on the ceiling. I am pretty sure that the pin would work itself loose in that situation. Additionally, I cannot use the old style metal plates with the newer coupling devices of the extreme superpole right side up or upside down. The plates will not fit on the ends of the newer pole.
Sensual… I know! Sometimes I wish I had the know-how to just machine a pole myself. I am pretty sure I could come up with something that would make me happy. 🙂
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I wouldn't worry about the joint stability on either pole unless you're tryhing to putting it up higher than 11 feet. I've only HEARD of problems with it when the poles were installed higher than they were meant to be so you should be fine.
I thought I heard that the PS poles could be installed upside down with the adjuster at the top going into the dome??? Still …that could potentially be dangerous if someone grabbed the slide cover instead of the pole at the top.
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Me too! I'd make my own multi piece in plated copper!
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I guess my biggest issue isnt that I worry about joint stability in a pole where the joints are working properly. I had an 8' pole where I couldnt beg my way into getting extensions with joints to screw together properly because they werent machine threaded in such a way that the joint screwed together evenly. And I received a lot of different extensions. PS never denied my requests for new extensions in an effort to make it work. I am afraid to buy a pole that is fatally flawed from the get go, I guess. My current height for a pole here would be 9.5' ceilings. I was thinking to get the 45mm Xpert in chrome (I havent heard good things about the stainless) and getting the extra suggested extension for that height to keep the extender screw from being very exposed, since I am not a small girl. and 9.5' is higher than any ceiling I have ever had.
Oops I wasnt explaining well in that last post. The PS extreme superpole plates can be switched from top to bottom. The new style of pole maintained the same size in the top and bottom couplers. But their old style chrome and metal plates cannot be switched because the couplers in the old poles were not the same size. The dome fit the screwpin in the old style, which has about a 1 inch diameter, and the foot plate fit the coupler with the pin mechanism, which was the diameter of the pole: 2". So I just cannot use the old metal plates that I already have with my other pole, though I could just turn the superpole upside down, assuming the joints actually screwed together.
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oooo fancy, sensual! Copper is probably waaaay too soft to be anything but plated, right? Also, where are you from in Oregon?
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