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  • Lucca Valentine

    Member
    March 31, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    your doc wanting limited flexy training would make sense, esp if the pinched nerve is related to a disc issue or a bony abnormality. It’s good you are staying active and I would think a lot of pole stuff would be good cuz stability and strength is what usually helps lower back pain (and hence the not wanting to stretch it too much).

    There’s an ongoing debate over whether stability or mobility is the cause of back pain…currently seems most are of the belief most people are too mobile in their lower backs so things are kinda slippin and sliding down there. Working on creating a natural girdle/support and doing deep DEEP core work is so important. We just have this big gap of space between ribs and hips that is thoroughly unsupported by any bone besides the vertebrae. It’s unlike any other area except the neck, which is not nearly as load bearing as the low back. So if that area is too tight or too loose or even just developed asymmetrically it can cause issues. All of which it sounds like you already know but just putting it out there in case others find it helpful. It’s one of the reasons why training core work evenly on both sides is so so so important.

  • Lucca Valentine

    Member
    March 31, 2015 at 11:50 pm
  • luvlee

    Member
    March 31, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    Honestly, I hate to admit it, but I have been poling for 6 years and have a terribly weak core. That makes sense.

  • luvlee

    Member
    March 31, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    That is why I am excited for this months challenges!!! I had to skip last months, so it should be fun!!

  • Lucca Valentine

    Member
    April 1, 2015 at 12:00 am

    Pilates. Seriously. I know I sound like a broken record saying that but nothing has taught me how to engage me core better than that and if you do a mat sequence you have the floor as your guide and there is very very very little chance of overarching in the beginners series. It’s perfect for someone who over arches their low back. I am one of those peoples. So far I’ve avoided pinched nerves, but my pelvic/spine structure is abnormal so if I go too long without training/strengthening properly. Man. Let me tell you. I am in some PAIN. And it doesn’t take long for that pain to set in …but if I even do like 5-10 minutes of pilates a day it seriously changes so much. I broke my pelvis when I was in high school and I seriously credit Pilates as to why I am still a functioning human being lol been using the same book for 10+ years now…and it’s still awesome 🙂

  • Lucca Valentine

    Member
    April 1, 2015 at 12:01 am

    I skipped last months challenge for the same reason! ^_^ this months challenge is made for us!

  • Veena

    Administrator
    April 1, 2015 at 12:21 am

    I think too many pole dancers take a break and then try and jump right back into where they were before. Big mistake, I think slow and steady, starting with basics is best, but that’s just how I roll….😎 It’s the whole reason I have the 30 day programs.

    Please keep in mind the April challenge is not progressive and is not meant to take the place of proper instruction! ☔️

  • Lucca Valentine

    Member
    April 1, 2015 at 12:50 am

    I took a break from pole and when i was ready to start again I did the 30 days to flight plan BY THE BOOK (even when i wanted to skip ahead hehe 🙂 and yeah. you def made those very well and put a lot of thought into them. I had a crazily strong invert after doing the 30 day plan that i didnt have previously.

    On that note Veena, I have wondered what constitutes a “break.” 2 weeks? 3 weeks? a month? or maybe its just relative to how much you usually pole? Sometimes i’ll take like a week and some change off pole and come back not landing things i was landing before, but little new things, nothing nuts….does that mean i should scooch it back a bit toward basics for awhile?

  • CD Hussey fka Jivete

    Member
    April 1, 2015 at 8:17 am

    I glued the yoga mat onto my PVC last night. Sadly it took three tries since I didn’t account for the thickness of the yoga mat.

    Anyway, posted a video of my first attempt on it. I watched the video again and will incorporate more of their warm-up, but I wanted to see where I was. Um, it may be long road, lol.

    https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/551becc9-8a30-4443-8d88-4e7a0a9aa0eb

  • CD Hussey fka Jivete

    Member
    April 1, 2015 at 8:20 am

    Oh and I did just talk to one of my construction guys. We have tons of scrap PVC and HDPE pipe in our yard. I’m going to try and make an 8″ wheel and a 12″ wheel. I think starting smaller might be better for non-flexy backs like mine, but I won’t know for sure until I try. The HDPE is much thicker than PVC, but besides being a tad heavier, should be fine.

  • Veena

    Administrator
    April 1, 2015 at 10:31 am

    Lucca, I count more than 2 weeks off a break, but if it’s under a month off I start back up with one day of conditioning and easy training. If it’s more than a month I do about a week (3 days of a week) of conditioning, strength and strength based pole work, before I let myself get back into thing heavily. I also never do split grip work often when I start up again, and really I just limit it for every session.

  • I polekat I

    Member
    April 1, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    wow i am loving this thread!! some really amazing tips , you guys are awesome =D

  • PolarGirl

    Member
    April 2, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    @Lucca Valentine:
    I love reading your posts! I am in massage school and also studying for personal trainer cert. Training core both sides IS super important, and that’s why I train both sides with every pole move (except when freestyling, where that’s all out the window) because pole utilizes the deep core so much. But for people who do have asymmetries in muscle tone in the muscles groups of the torso, working both sides equally is likely never going to balance that out. That’s why seeing a qualified physical therapist or other professional who is skilled in body assessment is so important; they can customize a workout plan to help balance your body. If you are asymmetrically toned, they are likely not going to assign a symmetrical training regimen until the imbalance has improved considerably. This may take time. Many of us come to pole with imbalances already locked into our posture – especially since we are the first generation to see pole become more acceptable so that younger people might begin training this form of dance. My point is that many of us are older than the average dancer. Now that I am starting to get into more advanced levels of pole I have not been able to work around my imbalances anymore without addressing them with deep structural bodywork. I recommend that any serious pole enthusiast work with a qualified therapist who can assess and advise them.

  • Lucca Valentine

    Member
    April 3, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    Agreed! Congrats in massage school at your cpt training! I do stand by training both sides evenly with the disclaimer of recommending you only train to the highest level of your weakest side…if that makes sense…if you can do 5 oblique crunches on one side and ten on the other, it may be appropriate to perform only do 5 each side until it evens out. A lot of PTs prescribe asymmetrical exercises to fix asymmetries but its not the universal approach for imbalances and there is a school of thought that disagrees with that approach as it can create an overcorrection pattern/new batch of issues. But, I def agree that it’s best to find a trained professional to work with you if at all possible 🙂

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