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Body position in cartwheel vs split grip ayesha
So here’s a question (I haven’t seen it covered before so please excuse me if it has been) that I am currently struggling with in my overanalysing pole brain: should your body position in your split grip ayesha be exactly the same as it is in the ayesha you cartwheel into? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
The reason I ask is that I have convinced myself that I *should* be able to nail the split grip ayesha from an invert. I have recently managed to get the cartwheel into ayesha legs and hold it (not all the time but enough), I have long been able to do the butterfly and extended butterfly, I can do forearm grip caterpillars and ayesha (although, to be fair, I stay quite close to the pole in this one rather than having my hips further away) so theoretically I should have the strength to do the split grip ayesha. However, every time I try, I can’t quite figure out where my butt is going and the legs that are so confident in swinging up into the cartwheel suddenly get shy and don’t want to stray far from the pole so it just turns into jacknife after jacknife instead of the ayesha I long for. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
I’ve watched prep videos where people suggest kinda froggy-ing your legs down but I can’t really make that work either. I look at how far away from the pole I’m pulling in the cartwheel mount and I can’t imagine getting into that position from an invert and it’s very VERY frustrating! When I try the split grip, as I would for doing a butterfly, it just doesn’t quite feel like it does when I’ve cartwheeled it (I do do them on opposite sides but it’s more than that) but my question is, should it feel exactly the same? This may seem like a dumb question but I’m trying to figure out exactly what I should be aiming for to get the darn move. Thanks in advance (and sorry about the long post for a short question – I always have to detail background…at length!) https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
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I like to have my body centered to the pole in a split grip from off the pole. In the Cartwheel mount I am off to the side of the pole. I don’t know if your taking the lessons here but here are the 2
Cartwheel mount http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/3882
Split grip Inverted V (ayesha) http://ver3.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4720
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When I learnt the split grip aysha from invert, I tried that froggy method for months on end and never got on with it at all. I will try to describe what I do, but it probably won’t make much sense.
I go up into my invert as I would for butterfly, keeping my hands in that position, but having my legs like an inverted crucifix. Then, rather than bringing my knees down with my legs bent, I bring my feet down with my legs straight, holding on with my ankles/feet sort of. By bringing it down holding on with the ankles and keeping my legs straight, my bum naturally falls away and backwards from the pole so my body is in that further away position. When I tried to do the froggy thing I never got my body far enough away from the pole and could never take my feet off. Once you get the feet far enough down, you can then take them off one either side of the pole and lower them into the aysha shape.
God I hope that makes sense – it’s really hard to describe something isn’t it when you can’t show somebody what you mean. Maybe think of yourself as a triangle shape with the pole being the bottom of the triangle and your bum being the pointy bit https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_question.gif
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I think I know what you mean LoopieLou but when I try it, I end up dropping my butt too far back, which is the problem I have when I’m doing the jackknife too (and which means I have no hope of balancing):( I really need to get my pole up at my new flat so I can buy Veena’s lessons and learn how to be awesome like her!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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