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Brass X-pole!
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Thanks 'Upandova'….this sheds some light and makes me go Grrrrrr….hehe. I went to class yesterday and was able to Really compare the brass studio poles with my x-pole…X-Pole brass poles SUCK compared to them. Oh well, I'm just gonna have to find a way round it….its just, i feel that I should'nt have to do this at all…makes me a bit sad really.
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Just this week I was finally going to order my brass x-pole but after seeing these reviews I think I will try the ps one instead… I am really disappointed to hear such bad reviews on an X-pole. Thank you girls for posting and letting us know the deal on them. Does every one like the PS?? Or is there another brass pole out there that is better???
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I really love my Xpole brass 45. I actually like it better than the brass ps pole I tried.
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@reeree hopefully the heat and stuff works for you to make your pole grip better.
I tried the hair dryer onto the pole, heating the room etc too but it didn’t work for me :-/
So glad I sold my brass Xpole. Can’t wait to get my pussycat pole to compare the 2. -
I have a brass Portable PartyPole from PoleDanzer. I find it very grippy. It’s hot and humid where I live BUT then again my entire body is as dry as paper so I reckon the effect of climate is cancelled out.
P.S. I mean grippy compared to my studio’s chrome X-Perts. This is the first brass pole I’ve used.
P.P.S. One drawback of my pole, though, is that the bottom mount that I got is two inches high and about five inches in diameter. I can’t comfortably spin/slide all the way down to the floor unless I have a crash mat that is at least two inches high as well. But maybe that’s just for the removable (pure pressure and friction) poles; the permanent (screwed-in) mounts are probably less obtrusive.
YMMV. HTH!
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Try contacting action poles in canada. They do ship to the U.S. They offer 50mm and 38mm brass only! I have never used them, but after I get my PS star stage, I am getting a 38mm action pole.
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OH! BTW, Bobbi's poles did get back to me and say that they would ship to the U.S. (from Australia, but it would be costly. That is another route you could take if you wanted.
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hun, your better off going with action pole, I only paid $400 for mine with $80 shipping, compared to bobby or pussycat that charge something like $900AD for the pole alone. Their brass is true brass, and has a steel core for strenght.
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alright, here is the second response xpole sent me when asked about the metal mix:
Below is direct from the product designer and managing director of X-Pole International:
"Brass is an Alloy – there is no such thing as ‘Pure’ brass. Brass is a combination mixture of Copper and Zinc. The proportions of zinc and copper can be varied to create a range of brasses with varying properties.
The higher the copper content the softer the brass – and so that is prone to bending and damage. We use a 70:30% ratio (Copper/Zinc) which gives good longitudinal strength together with good damage resistance."
If we made the entire pole brass including the dome and the base then the cost would significantly increase and since brass is not as hard as steel it would be able to withstand less ceiling to floor pressure.
Our goal is to make the X-Pert to be the strongest, sturdiest, and safest professional pressure mounted pole on the market.
In addition, the main reason people wanted the brass is for the grip. As the dancers are not "gripping" either the dome or the base during their routines we decided strength and cost were more important to the design.
Also, whereas one piece lined brass pole are on the market, it is much more difficult from a production standpoint to make a multiple piece portable pole that is lined (weight,cost etc.). By using a proper ratio of Copper & Zinc and thorough product testing we determined we could make a really strong, safe portable brass pole that received great reviews.
Sorry I wasn't able to read the whole Studio Veena thread, but I did come across some good reviews on the brass as well."
The part about having the dome and base made of titiumun I understand compleatly, it's a lot cheaper for the buyer and your not dancing on the base/dome so whatever, that was never an issue for me. but i'm still kinda dissapointed with the brass mix, by making it more durable they sacfriced on grip, which is generally why people buy brass in the first place. they didn't lie about it being brass, but I still feel jaded that's it's not the type of brass the buyer expects from a pro brass pole. that's my two cents, I know some people like the new model, but after useing a "true brass" pole there's really no comparison.
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So….since ALL brass poles are a ratio of copper and zinc….does anyone know what the ratio is in other brand brass poles? How can we be disappointed with the brass mix when we don't have anything to compare it to?
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I'm not buying it. There are a ton of portable brass poles on the market that people love, so their reasoning of it being hard to find a brass alloy that is portable…I don't buy it.
I think they are trying to make poles that are DIFFERENT from the other poles on the market. Their brass and stainess stell poles are different from the other poles on the market, but the problem is, people are hating them.
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Brass is a softer metal…I wouldn't want a pole that comes in pieces to be make from solid brass..I would worry it would bend. Even before I started dancing I knew brass was a soft metal. Dancers have has issues with permanent brass poles bending and warping, so it makes sense that the xpole isn't soild brass.
I don't know why everyone has to be so nasty……. for some reason we tend to hear more from the people who HATE a product then from those who love it…..just the way people are. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_evil.gif
I don't feel xpole ever tried to "trick" anyone into thinking it was a solid brass pole…..
As far as gripping then not….I have had this issue with every pole I have ever had….and I have had a lot of poles! But it always gets better. Its almost like your pole, your body chemistry and what you clean with have to get use to each other… lol. Idk. I would say for ANY pole if its warm and your warm then grip will be at it best. A lot of people will find the class room poles will grip differently than their home poles, even if they are made by the same company. There are other factors that affect grip.
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I think this is more of a finish issue than a copper/zinc issue. I have found only one website that stated that their brass tubing was 66% Copper/34% Zinc and one other that stated that many industrial and bar brasses are what is considered low zinc, which is 80% Cu/20% Zn. What you will notice though is that the brass tubing that you can purchase from any brass shop is HIGH POLISH. This makes HUGE difference in grip. Anyone who has been on a stainless high polish pole vs a brushed stainless will agree with me.
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Chem, that would make sense…I have uses a brass pole that was not shiny and one that was a high polish I would guess, and there was a big difference. They both had grip but the high polish reminded me more of my TG pole where once you grab it your gonna stick! The other pole was easier to slide around on.
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