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Dancing VS Tricks
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V, I have always loved watching you dance, and have always felt that you "dance" with grace and fluidity whether on the floor or not! So in that sense, I think you already have accomplished it. 🙂
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"even if my performances became 50% floor and 50% aerial, I would still hope to see the video thereafter and feel confident that I "danced" through all of the performance. In fact, I have started specifying between "aerial dancing" and "grounded dancing" with students and other people. So in short, I enjoy aerial dancing and I enjoy grounded dancing when they are executed fully, instead of a trick reel or instead of a grounded dance using a pole as a prop."
StellarMotion I really like how you put this! I totally agree with you and I love the term "arial dance" 🙂
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StellarMotion said some really interesting things about dancing even when tricking… and I like Veena's term "expression" – I think that's a big part of dance. Regarding StellarMotions concern about some expectations for women's dancing to also be sexy, I think that sexiness while it can add something to dance, isnt necessary. It just depends on everyones style and interpretation. Apparently I tend to dance sexy/sultry even when Im feeling emotional and sad…. Others might find one dancer's style sexy while others may not. I agree that sexiness shouldnt be a requisite for pole dancing. But I do think a touch of sexy can add some great spice 😉 Oh and floorwork isnt all about getting down n dirty – it can be just as artistic and acrobatic as footwork/pole work. Also, you dont need to be on the floor to be sexy…. some classic pole tricks and poses can be astonishingly beautiful and seductive. I refer to ALethea Austin's dancing (youtube) as evidence. 😉
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Also individuality is important, to be yourself and do what makes you happy in a routine really shows. If its very mechanical and rigid or repetive it shows i love good flow and effortlessness i also like new moves and tricks keeps things exiting and fresh to watch https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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I've seen some beautiful pole routines with absolutly no aerial moves what-so-ever! If you do what works for you, and stick to moves you know and are comfortable with ~ You will amaze people 🙂
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This is a great discussion! I most appreciate seeing creative expression through dance balanced both on and around the pole. I do want to speak up for those of us who are not very advanced and yet still put a lot of heart and soul into our dance–I find I cannot smoothly perform several aerial combinations without coming down to the floor in between…with more strength that will come.
I also want to say that music choice for me is HUGE as so much feeling is found there as well. -
I agree with Flexx10. I’ve seen some performances where the girls are so caught up with nailing their tricks that you notice their concentration and effort more than anything else. But if a dancer is confident and focused on engaging her audience, even watching simple floor work and half spins is a pleasure.
That said, I think a 50-50 ratio keeps the audience more appreciative of the tricks that a dancer does land, cos people can lose perspective of how much it takes to actually pull off a good trick. Kinda like how you can get desensitized to the violence of fight scenes in a war movie cos of all the blood and guts flying around every few minutes?
I think when people watch trick after trick for more than a minute, they can sometimes lose the appreciation. But if you are absorbed in the beauty of a dancer’s graceful movement, then suddenly tricks can ‘surprise’ your senses all over again
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I am with https://www.studioveena.com/users/view/bc92cfd4-d89d-11df-ab19-12313b090e12! Also agree with HollySatine as Felix comes to mind as someone who does a lot of "tricks" but dances through all of them so what one watches is, using StellarMotion terms, aerial dancing.
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Well said Hotpinksugar! A handful of my students are working exotic dancers and I always tell them to make their audience "earn" pole tricks ~ Really I just mean "make them pay for it" (and they will)! If the audience is constantly seeing "tricks", they get used to it and they won't want to pay money to see them. Please keep in mind that my exotic dancers come to me to learn moves that are going to make them $$$$, so the concept of making the audience "earn" seeing the advanced moves will not apply to everyone or every performance 🙂
I also tell my girls to "pick music that moves them". Some songs lend themselves better to floor work while others are better suited for aerial performances.
All-in-all, I really hate to say that a "better" pole performance is one with (or without) "tricks" as I know there are dancers who are just beginning or (for whatever reason) can't physically perform the more advanced moves. But I will say that the BEST pole dancers are the ones with CONFIDENCE!
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I personally prefer tricks rather than dance myself but that is because I've not graceful or fluid. I do pole to keep in shape and for the sense of accomplishment when I nail a trick I've been working hard at. I like watching videos that have some dancing in them but mostly watch them to spot new tricks or combos to learn than anything else.
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For anyone who has seen my dancing, it's obvious that I'm more of a dancer… as many others have said, I just don't have the strength yet for the advanced tricks (and let's face it, it takes more strength to haul a plus-sized butt upside down on the pole… :P)… but also, having been trained at S Factor, pole dancing is more focused on emotions for me, and most of my emotions can be better expressed on the floor… but I will agree with those who have said that a generally even split between dance and pole is the best to watch… HOWEVER… if someone is *really* involved in what they are doing whether it be all on the pole, or all on the floor, it's going to be amazing to watch! 🙂
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