StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions Getting into invert jumping vs lifting

  • jade s

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 1:47 am

    Unfortunately I was initially taught to invert by kicking as well. I definitely don’t recommend learning to invert by kicking. It’s a hard habit to break, and that habit will inhibit learning an aerial invert later on. I feel it’s better to master lifting into an invert even if it takes longer.

  • ShonaLancs

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 4:02 am

    I am really going to work on getting into it properly now ladies, starting from today. I know it’s much harder but it looks better and is correct so it will be worth it in the long run.
    I just wish I had known better 17 week ago-I could have been nearly there by now!!
    How long does it take people on average do you think?
    At least I already have strength built up from poling so that will help me progress quicker 🙂

  • Krista Bocko

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 5:46 am

    I don't know an average, but I've had students poling for over 6 months that are not ready to invert. There is so, so much to learn first. 

    I'm so glad you asked this question and can correct it. It will be so worth it. Slow and steady is the BEST way to develop excellent habits, control and fluidity (and avoid injury of course). Injuries are not worth the perceived glory of doing something your body isn't ready for.

    Good luck, Shona!!

  • RoseMay

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 8:21 am

    There are also some instructional dvds out there that tell you to kick into inverts – and also demonstrate it this way, that looks hilarious in an aerial invert …

    @shona: Good for you for going back to work on strengthening 🙂

    I also don't know an average, that depends on so many things. When I learned to invert I just tried to do 10 knee raises on each side after each practice … after a while I worked on combining the knee raise with a tuck invert. Then after a few weeks my feet were suddenly ON the pole after the knee raise. Then I thought: Okay, I think I'm strong enough now https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif

  • luvlee

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 10:24 am

    Your body will thank you for doing it correctly. Remember to stand in front if the pole. If you are behind it, you need to kick to much. In front you can lift much easier.

  • ShonaLancs

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 11:19 am

    So sparrow what you have your students work on before moving onto inverting?
    No more inverts 🙁 all in good time though.. 🙂 hopefully not too long!

  • amy

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 11:42 am

    i just want to clarify something a bit here… there's a big difference between SWEEPING your leg up into the air, and KICKING that leg.

    you can do a controlled leg sweep safely, as long as you are not relying on the momentum of the leg to help you to get upside down. in the beginning of this video, i am doing a controlled sweep of the leg but i am focusing on pulling my HIPS to the pole by maintaining an engaged core and using my arms to pull down on the pole: 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuf_TdvuPIs

    many people will not be strong enough to do a controlled tuck invert or chopper V invert as dirdy birdy demonstrates for a very LONG TIME. i know people who have been poling for 2 years and still havne't gotten their chopper/v invert.

     

     

     

  • Veena

    Administrator
    January 28, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Yep Amy is very right! Just watch my lesson and you’ll get the right idea of how to Basic Invert 🙂

  • RoseMay

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Ah okay, so waiting until you can do a tuck invert, like it is suggested in this sticky thread here: https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/Am_I_ready_for_an_inversion_2009-05-31_170937

    is a bit overcautious? That's the thread I used as reference to teach myself.

    (I always thought that sweep with the leg was okay as long as you're strong enough to do it the "right" way)

  • Paunobs

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    It took me 17 months to be able to control my inverts like Dirdy shows, in the meantime I used the The sweep, In the first 3 months I bruised my ribs from not keeping the pole behind and close I really should not have been inverting at that stage, but you at 6 months should be ok for doing inverts with the sweep, follow Amy Veenas advice, you will be fine!

  • Krista Bocko

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    That is a great thread too, RoseMay!

    Shona, I have my students work on wall moves, floor moves, transitions, spins, conditioning, balance, core work, combo spins, climbs, musicality….I want students to FEEL. To express themselves, to dance…to be grounded in the earth first. I want them to have platforms to build skills upon, this takes time. 

  • Reyn

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Don't forget, EVEN if you are not ready to invert, you can still work on SOME inverted moves by getting up in a reverse handstand!!

  • dancing in the gray

    Member
    January 28, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    My instructors are huge on not kicking into an invert, but they allow a controlled leg sweep. In my case, I do tend to hook with my foot before my ankle or calf. But I have control and have not bruised anything or hurt myself. I do work on trying to “tuck and dump” to build strength

  • nymphdancer

    Member
    January 29, 2012 at 8:55 am

    sparrow I wish there was a like button for your last post….

  • aisha reid

    Member
    January 29, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Thanks Amy for pointing that out- was starting to get really concerned about an assessment I have to join a local studio at intermediate level!! I’m pretty sure I don’t use momentum but after reading these posts I started to get really panicked that I wouldn’t pass!

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