StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions How to prepare for Shoulder Mount?

  • Lyme Lyte

    Member
    January 18, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    A drink that is….not a shoulder mount!

  • FuzzyNavel

    Member
    January 18, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    lol 🙂

  • CatsEyes

    Member
    March 26, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    I also have trouble with that one too.

    I've watched every single video I could find to master that move but  Ican't figure it out. I'm using the cupped grip because it's the only one which really works for me, I get nowhere with the others.

    At first I started with just scissors kicks then I tried to bring my knees against my chest as you would when working on the Open V/Chopper. I started being pretty good at that so I thought I was ready to try SM from the floor but…I can't do anything there !!! I mean, if I lie my entire body on the floor it's ok but if I  move up just a little bit, I can't move, my butt is stuck on the ground and it feels soooo heavy !

    I'm actually better when standing and if I give a bit of momentum I can lift my leg a little bit higher but it doesn't change anything 'cuz I can't lift my butt up and I know this is a key point.

    So, I've decide to try shoulder dismount to see exactly what is wrong and the muscles I should engage and I'm actually great at it, i could it over and over but still, it's not enought and I can"t do my SM. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but arrrrg it's driving me crazy !

  • Frowning

    Member
    March 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    A lot of great information here, thank you ladies!  I can already see SM being my nemesis for a while, but for me I think it's more about building up my tolerance to the pain.  Right now, oh GOD it hurts.

  • Lyme Lyte

    Member
    March 26, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I got my SM a few weeks ago and it wasnt painful for me. Havent been able to do it since, but working on it!

  • maurer rose

    Member
    March 26, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    I started practicing from the floor today with the cup grip. I could tuck and hold my body parallel to the floor a few inches off the floor for a while, but when I started with my shoulders a little higher I couldn't budge my butt off the floor. Then again it was close to the end of class and I was getting tired already. So far the shoulder pain doesn't bother me. Is worse if I do the move for real? I have heard complaints about rolling over the collarbone. I guess I'll find out eventually some day…

  • Elektra Vallens

    Member
    March 27, 2012 at 10:46 am

    The pain might be worse for a while when you start shoulder mounting, but it will go away.  The talk about "going over the collarbone" is probably in reference to later on, when you are comfortable shoulder mounting, and begin to be able to hold it more and more vertical to the pole, which will expose new areas and nerves again.  (I found this out when I took a lesson on shoulder mount hops- I didn't know I had so much more shoulder to desensitize)

  • ShonaLancs

    Member
    April 27, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    I have been using a twisted grip which I find easiest as I can’t do anything with a cup grip and can do a knee tuck from tip toes (so no jumping) but with slight momentum from one leg. I can tuck easily but I cannot hold the tuck so can’t even begin to think about getting legs extended and to the pole…I’m not sure what to do to get past this tuck phase? I can do a chopper from dead lift so I know I have the core strength, is it my lack of arm strength to do that final pull up to the pole? Help?!

  • ORGANIC ANGEL

    Member
    April 30, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Well I got this in about 1 month of poling. I continued to do it until I was 30 weeks pregnant. Yes, you read that right. But then I stopped and I returned to pole at 8wks post partum Let me tell you, it is ALL about the internal abs!!! It is the one move I have not been able to do again yet. Grrrrrrrr.

    Doing it from the floor is way harder, but if you can do it from the floor, you'll probably b able to execute this move….

    Just started working on it this week, so I'll let you know….T.B.C….

  • ShonaLancs

    Member
    May 21, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    Still working on this bloody move!! Nearly got it today- got my toe to the pole but no foot round yet! Tutor reckons I’ll be on the SM chopper before I am the SM invert as I have got the tuck down but not the extension of the legs to the pole. This move is driving me nuts!!!

  • calipolepixie

    Member
    May 21, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    I am no where close either…a few months ago, I wasn't even interested in trying it and even had the thought of maybe I would be fine if I never learned it…the SM scares me about as much as handstands do. But lately I have been thinking about it alot and I am ready to start seriously prepping for it. In class, we have tried a couple of prep moves for it every now and then and I can barely even do that. I just don't get how to do it + scared=no go. sigh.

    Hang in there with patience and determination I'm sure youll get it. Maybe a skype lesson from skittles might help you get it. I was thinking about doing that because Ive seen how quickly shes helped others here pick up moves they were struggling with…

  • Veena

    Administrator
    May 21, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Doing this from the floor should not be harder if you know how to do it. If you're trying to do it from sitting then yes, that is very difficult. Don't forget about all the other muscles needed to perform this move. Just look at the long list of muscles used in the lesson! I strongly suggest using the Veena grip for those who feel the move isn't secure for them.

    Also everyone please remember not every move is suitable for all dancers. You can see in the lessons here the SM is listed waaaaay down towards the end in the Advanced section. Strength and control is needed do to this successfully. Never performing a shoulder mount won't make you less of a pole dancer! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_heart1.gif

    Here is the lesson, included is how to do this from the floor. https://www.studioveena.com/lessons/view/4d6bac4d-8044-4fa9-9aaa-66300ac37250

  • calipolepixie

    Member
    May 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    @hotelchick I'm right there with you sister. I wish every day that I had my 20 something energy and stamina back. 2 days max of pole or zumba or any exercise in general is about all my body can take, its frustrating at times. It takes me 2-3 days to recover between any type exercise. And if I have a really intense pole class, it takes me a week to not feel completely fatigued, sore and weak. I WISH I could pole 3-4x a week, i think I would be so much further along in my poling progress if I had the stamina. I know part of it has to do with my recently discovered low thyroid but still waaaaahhhh! 

  • pegasusaerialfitness

    Member
    May 23, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Lyme…also work on your hamstring flexibility. The more you can laterally straddel the legs out to the sides the less (pure strenght) you have to use to lift. A little bit like chopper. Be prepared to lose some skin(at first) on your shoulder and dont practice too much.

  • KerryGotPole

    Member
    May 23, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I’m so glad someone else feels this way as I still can’t seem to get myself around the sm I get so far up and just can’t seem to hook that foot then my friend who rarely poles comes along and does it right away! I’m so peeved! 🙁 any tips would be great x

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