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I wonder how much of inverting is mental….
So, here I am, still unable to invert. I feel like its something I should really be able to do by now, strength wise. I wonder if I've made it such a big "OMG I can't do that" that its making it even worse. I'm also thinking I am afraid to swing a leading leg, afraid of any momentum, but I feel like waiting for a deadlift isn't something most polers do. So how much of it is looking at the pole and thinking "I can do that" vs. having all the right practice and muscle but seeing it as elusive in the mind still…..
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If you can post up a video of your invert or come into chat on Friday. Most of the time with just a little adjustment of hand placement or body you can get by any block.
I tuck invert and used to teach this way. It is not a deadlift in any way but you do have to make sure that when you tuck your arms are still bent. If they are straight there is no expansion left when you tilt and it will never happen.
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I think it also have alot to do with the mental aspect.
I didnt invert for the first 6 months, but I gained alot of new strenght. I could lift to a pole-hold and then tuck, with ekstra strenght to tilt back. But I didnt invert. Everytime I tried, I didnt give it my all, because what would happen, if I actually got there. How would my head feel, upside down, would my grip be as good, not there is a different gravity, would I be able to think straight or would I panic?
Then I had a pole- photoshoot, and I dont know what it was, if I felt a need to great a great pictue of it, or if I wanted to make sure, to impress the photographer, but I felt an enormous desire, to do it, and there it was.
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Thats the kind of thing I mean Steffie. Same here, can tuck, can hold, not even afraid of being up side down, I practice handstands, invert in my yoga swing daily, feel confident in my ability to "get the pole" (I've hear before girls say they're afraid to "miss the pole") I don't even fear "what do I do when I get up there" because I am not expecting to do a leg hang or butterfly or something the first time I invert, I plan to see how long I can hold it, get comfy, and let myself slide slowly to the ground lol. I have it all planned and prepped…. Maybe I'm OVER thinking it. @Chemmy, I will take video. Haven't done that yet.
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I have always favored the tuck invert, as chem describes it. I actually have a harder time with the basic invert than the tuck invert. I do a tuck shoulder mount as well (shoulder mount into a little ball and then extend my legs). I think it's because I have pretty weak hip flexors relative to my other muscles, so inverting with extended legs is really hard for me. I'm working to build up that strength.
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Can you hang in bat hang/inverted crucifix? If not I would urge you to learn this from a reverse handstand and be comfortable in it before inverting.
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And portableninja, beside weak hip flexors I am also very bottom heavy…as in hip to foot is 42 inches and hip to head is 26 inches.
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You ladies are singing my song. I have had issues with this for the whole time I've been attempting to invert. I can hang on the pole with my arms, I do pole holds, I can do tucks, and if I swing my leg, I can actually hook it on the pole.
Yet, once tucked, my butt just doesn't want to go up. Usually what happens is, tuck and then I try to straighten my arms in order to lower my head… and my whole body just goes down. Some kind of strength isn't there yet, or I just don't understand what I should be doing.
People have told me to "bring my crotch to the pole," but… do you know how hard that is?
I am also fairly bottom-heavy. Most of my weight hides in my hips, because they're fairly large, though I don't consider myself pear-shaped. I also have very long legs, so once I'm tucked, all my weight is over my bottom half, no matter what I do. I often wonder if I need super-human strength just to do a tuck-invert!
But… I keep working on it anyways. One day! I have to believe I'll get it one day.
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YES RUNEMIST!!!!! EXACTLY! EXAAACTLYYYYYYY! Oh do let me know when it clicks for you. I will check my bat hang, but pretty sure that came naturally to me. Before I ever had lessons or anything, that and Chinese style climbs were all I did lol. I can invert easily on a T pole. I even busted out a V invert on my Omni Gym pull up bar. I was up there for a while but my husband saw me and said “Wooooaaaaah. Uh, baby, there’s like nothing under you…uh…no safety net or anything” I said “Its ok, I have plenty of core strength” and I let myself down so gently, like a deadlift in reverse. Going home now to practice. *determined face*
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Bah! I really need to work on my inverted crucifix. I'm going to do that today. I think it's a major trick day for me, and then maybe I'll do some proper dancing tomorrow or something.
If it clicks for you before it clicks for me, you have to tell me your secret, too 😉
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Do any of you ladies do yoga? I find the muscles I use to invert are the exact same ones I use in shoulder stands and plow. A good way to build the muscles is to start on your back, slowly roll back into plow, and then slowly lower yourself back to the floor on your back. Same for shoulder stand, but you need to be really careful to put the weight across your shoulders, not your neck.
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That’s another thing I was doing before I knew it was Yoga lol. When I tried to find pictures to explain what I was doing on a hooping forum, I was like “Oh its a Yoga thing too” and all the girls chuckled because they knew right away what it was. I have yet to find a Yoga class or sequence that really speaks to me, I just incorporate little things into my routine.
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A friend of mine (he's a crazy martial-arts fitness person) told me to use my foam roller, lay down with it on the small of my back, and do a full plank. I could use my hands to hold on to the pole above my head. It's freaking hard!
I'll work on my ploughs and shoulderstand though! I was also trying to incorporate bum-lifts (into like a shoulder stand, kind of) into my strength routine too.
We'll get this, D! We'll get it… *shakes fist*
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@Runemist34 Try this excercise:
http://62.90.138.233/blogim/2708LR/images/3000121_47.jpg
I don't know what it's called in English. In Hebrew it is called "Candle Stand". Lift into in with straight legs. Once you are up, try to stay up without using your hands. The final step is to go up with straight legs using only your muscles – no hands!
You can also practice with the pole on the floor – lie near the pole and hold it with both hands (like you are inverting). Hook one leg on the pole and try to lift your pelvis without using the other leg.
Good luck 🙂
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I actually was trying to do this today, Lillybilly!
I was thinking that I wanted to try to work on my balance while upside down (as I've never actually tried it) and attempted to stay in this position as long as I could.
Looking at the hands, though, I should probably make some adjustments to my positioning… might make things a little easier!
Thank you!
Also, I've heard it called a "Candle stand" before, too, so I think that works!
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Yeah, I've been candlestanding, I plank on my balance ball about 10 times a day at least, hooking my feet under the bar under my desk. My husband was laughing at me because he said I was closer to the pole when doing a fan kick than all my tucking combined. I tried the "leading leg" method a few times. Definitely can bat hang like crazy. Something Something….
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