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  • poledanceromance

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    September 17, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t care why anyone smokes, medicinally or recreationally. There’s nonreasonforthr penalties for it to be so high. What I am against is the systematic ruining of young lives over nothing but pot use. The legal penalties need to reflect that this is a substance somewhat on par with alcohol and in no way on par with other illegal substances. It is potentially pschologically but not chemically habit forming. The risks to the public from cannabis use are essentially non-existent. It makes me so angry when I see some 20 year old whose life is over because they got a felony possession charge because a cop saw them smoking in their living room through a window and one corner of their property is within 1000 feet of a school zone.

    Generally I am against mandatory sentences and you find a lot of that in drug laws.

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    And I am going to add my typical disclaimer: I am not trying to be a wench here.  I do know that when I start talking all analytically it causes issues.  This is what i do for a living.  My world is facts and numbers and data and analyzing that data to find the flaws.  I am also very interested in people's response to heated issues.  Are your views based on something that happened in your life or are they based on something someone told you over and over so you believe it to be fact?  If you have opposing data I would love to read it.  I am a knowldge junkie through and through and if my beliefs are incorrect I want to learn why and what backs up that untruth.  So please do not be offended by my banterings and questions.

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    Chem said it well. When you take away the taboo/ risk factor for kids, suddenly certain things become less appealing. I've even heard some people say that they do drugs becasue they are illegal…

  • GiedreB

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Chem, they actually stopped selling any marijuana products to tourists in the Netherlands.

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    Chem – I'm the same way (being a bio major and all…) Need the data to support claims!

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    "Chem, they actually stopped selling any marijuana products to tourists in the Netherlands."

     

    But the coffee shops are not really abiding by it.  That is like them banning smoking in bars in many cities but bars have found ways around it.

  • dustbunny

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    Haha, I gotta say I LOVE this discussion.

    Almost as much as I love my green!  For me, smoking calms me down after a hectic day at work.  I liken it to someone who comes home at 5 and drinks a beer (or wine) or two with dinner to relax.  I am always sober when I work, and I have never been addicted.  I can quit whenever I want for as long as I want (and I have multiple times in the past) and it doesn't bother me, but I'd rather have the fun of smoking.  Alcohol leaves me with major headaches and hangovers, even when I am not overconsuming.  Pot does leave me feeling a little lazy, but that's after a couple hours since smoking and it definitely doesn't put me out like drinking does.

    I also agree with those who have said they'd rather hang out with pot smokers than drunks, way more fun to be around whether you are sober or not.  🙂

    And it's true that it's not for everybody, some people don't react well to it and that's okay too.  But like sensual I also believe that all drugs should be legal, people should have the choice about what to put in their bodies.  Just like in the animal kingdom…survival of the fittest!  If you put crap in your body and die, well, I hate to sound like a dick, but now that person can't pass on bad genetics/knowledge.  We are the only species that puts major resources into protecting all the weaker individuals.  I'm not saying that's always a bad thing, (I have a cousin with cerebral palsy, I'm glad people protected him and allowed him to grow up to be a productive member of society) but seriously, there is a limit to everything.  The world is heavily overpopulated, and somethings got to give. 

    There are no easy answers here, but it's a great discussion!  🙂

  • azblanco

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    I will say I do not have any further reasons other than MY OWN LIFE experiences that disagrees with legalization of MJ.  

    All of you ladies feel strongly on your stand points and have a lot of support to back up your arguements.  

    I will admit that I have my hands tied on your points and how I feel because there are so many people that CANNOT control themselves. As mentionend before, I do not blame Marijuana for this or any other drug for that matter.  

    With that being said, if it were ONLY a question of infrigement on our own personal rights and freedom- I say legalize the hell out of it.  And it would help get us out of some the debt. 

     

     

  • monica kay

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    when i went to amsterdam, i totally thought i was going to be surrounded by annoying sloppy stoners, but pot's not a big deal there— i guess it's not a big deal because it's not breaking any laws.  my friend smokes at the end of the night, responsibly, like a nightcap.

    i agree with chem- the tourists are the problem smokers.  kinda like tourists in new orleans during mardi gras puking, pissing, and trashing everything.  the locals dont act afool.

    i love maryjane.  i rarely smoke tho because i have asthma- and i know people claim that mj is supposed to help with that, but for me, it does not.  I even use a vaporizor, but still my lungs feel tight the next day.  i also dont like to smoke to often because i will EAT EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE.  then i fall asleep.  i cant get anything done.

    and the worst thing about mj is that i cant pole if i'm high! >:-/

  • Charley

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    I believe one of the reasons it will not be legalized is because there is no way to test for it if someone is driving.  No one should be driving under the influence of any kind of drug including pot, alcohol, perscription drugs, etc.  So until they can test for it they probably won't legalize it.

    The best solution is decriminalizing it which would be mean it would be a misdemeanor and not a felony – though I don't think a doobie is a felony any more – and pocession would not end with jail time but fines.

    In our current conservative world – I can't see pot being sold in stores although it should be and regulated like alcohol.  There are too many people there are too many that would fuss over this – we as a country aren't ready for it. 

    I concur – far too many people in the system over pot – sad!

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Well 3 states have legalization measures on the November ballot: Colorado, Washington, and Oregon…

  • Saphyre

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Time for me to move..hehe

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    Add Ohio to that list!

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Sorry, spoke too soon.  It was approved but for some reason did not make it.  Not exactly sure why.

     

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    September 17, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    I've gotta figure that at least ONE state will pass the measure. Then the country will see that it's not the end of the world.

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