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New pole – help!?! (Xpert Xpoles)
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If the SS and brass aren't brushed, then why are people saying they appear brushed and matte? In the old forum thread, pics of the stainless x pert were posted and they definitely look brushed/ matte. http://www.flickr.com/photos/43338521@N04/sets/72157627213031817/
I wish I had taken a picture of my old SS lilmynx to show the difference…
And the picture wemaster posted of their brass pole looks matte as well (look at the pole compared to the adjuster cover (which is TG.) https://www.studioveena.com/photos/view_photo/4f21cc1c-b7cc-432a-a3c6-17130ac37250
compared to the brass I have: https://www.studioveena.com/photos/view_photo/4ec81ebc-793c-4e91-b76c-57630ac37250
It's possible that the polisher they use on their TG and chrome polishes brass and stainless differently, as they are different metals. It's been mentioned many times that the stainless. Another girl said she contacted x pole and they said the finish is "matte."
Either way, based on the info of other Veeners, the SS x pert is said to be much slicker than other stainless poles, so if grip is an issue, a SS may not be the best option. Like I said before, TG might be a good option in a dry climate, or go with the chrome pole. To know what chrome feels like, go feel some of the chrome fixtures in your bathroom (or a hardware store if you don't have any at your home.)
Taylor – Are there any studios around that you can try different finishes at? Another thing to consider is that the finish on your chrome will last awhile and you may decide to get another pole after a while for some variety. Pole buying becomes addictive.
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First of all that picture of Veena's brass pole does not look brushed to me but these are just pictures and hard to tell anyway.
All I am doing is repeating what came directly from the mouth of the owner and creator of the company. Clive is not only reputable and honorable but he is a very intelligent person who knows his stuff and puts a lot of time and passion into XPole products. He was adament that the finish is "polished".
He did tell me that there are more technical details to this than most people understand and that X-Pole will be releasing all the details at some point soon.
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I want to clarify something else…what "others" feel is a good grip is only a marginal indicator of what a pole will feel like to someone else. I love chrome and work best on it…as mentioned I am just as comfortable on PoleDanzer ss.
I personally dislike brass. Almost any brass I've been on is either slippery or grips way too much.
However I slide all over the place on a PS multi-piece pole. I struggle so much I hate taking classes where they are in use. On the other hand the PS one piece ss has a better grip for me.
Yet there are many people who claim that PS ss in all models is great!
I just don't think any of us should imply that we have facts about what a pole finish feels like – only opinions.
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I agree, pole finishes are different for everyone depending on their body chemistry. That's why trying out the finished before hand is good. I've had experience poling with no moisture coming from my body, and poling with excess sweat on my body. Based on that I personally have found that dancing on stainless with dry skin is hard. My hands just couldn't grip it without a grip aid, and even then it was tough. No idea about chrome, but as I remember you (Empy) have dry skin too? So maybe chrome is better for those with dry skin. With sweaty hands though, stainless is not so bad to grab onto, but harder to hang onto since the sweat and the slickness of the stainless combine and I feel like I will go flying off the pole. TG is a little easier for me with brass being the easiest. I can grip stainless okay with my body when I am sweaty and the pole is warm and my body really sticks to TG and grabs onto brass. I can't grip ANY pole without grip aid when I am bone dry. I tried both my TG and my brass and they were both hard, but I was able to spin really well on the TG and brass with dry hands. I think the lilmynx stainless has gotten grippier cuz my home pole seemed grippier than the ones I danced on in the studios.
Body moisture plays a HUGE role in how you will grip a pole. Dry skin needs grip aid more (not a big deal.) A little bit of body sweat actually helps you stick to the pole.
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Yes I have dry skin…though I definitely sweat sometimes, my skin is mostly dry. However I also have no problems on certain ss poles. So your suggestion to try specific poles before chosing one is the best. Though not perfect as different days our skin is under different conditions.
There are too many variables to consider that we might give one definitive answer – all we can do is give our experience.
I just wanted to clarify that the X-Pole finishes are all polished not brushed.
When considering a finish it is my understanding that usually the more porous the metal the better it is for sweaty hands. Also the faster it absorbs heat so it gets warmer faster.
In order from least to most porous:
stainless
chrome
titanium/brassPlated or solid does not matter in how porous it is. The characteristics of the metal is the same.
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Yeah, some days I cannot grip my pole very well (like dry cold days.) That is interesting about the pourousness of the pole. Maybe that is a contributing factor to why some girls say powder coated is grabbier while brass is less grabby for them (I haven't tried a PC pole yet, so I can't say how I would react.) I think the different brasses have different metal concentrations; that probably affects the grip (I would guess the same is true for stainless.)
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Hi Taylornow, Warming up the body AND pole significantly will allow you to grip ANY kind of pole finish better. This is why I designed the Basic Warm Up lesson to include moves that warm the pole too.
The 45mm Chrome is a good finish. If you have sweaty hand issues try Dry hands or some Pole dance gloves. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif
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Great info everyone! Im learning so much! I actually live in northwest tx, so it’s pretty dry climate.
I don’t have anything against Tg or brass, I just have always preferred the “silver” look… You all have me taking a second look though!
Also I wanted to clarify: my skin is dry as in I always need lotion and moisturizer, however my body does sweat and get moist when I’m active.
Also, there is only one studio here, and they have chrome poles. I’m calling them this week to see when/ how much classes are. Maybe see if I can speak to the instructor there, and get her advice since she lives in the climate/ etc.
Does anyone know how long xpole will be offering the SS and Brass models? Or when they will stop being available?
I already want them all LOL.
Also, I wasn’t aware platinum stages offered poles that did not need to be mounted?? (I can’t have the huge bottom stage though….) or am I mis reading the earlier post?
Thank you SO very much everyone! Keep the info coming! It’s fantastic!
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I have a 50 MM Stainless Steel, mutli piece Platinum Stages pole, that spins, at home. For a few months, I thought it was super slippery. However, I know use a space heater while warming up to warm up me and the pole, and it has made the HUGEST difference. Once warm, the pole is never slippery. If you buy from a reputable maker, I do not think you will have issues. I should mention I had a slight problem when I first received the pole, and the service I received from Plantinum Stages was EXCELLENT. They resolved everything with no hassle to me.
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Just saw your question about Platinum Stages. My pole does not need to be mounted, and does not have a stage. In comes in pieces to adjust to different celing heights. It mounts to the floor and celing with tension, and it works great! I was suspicious when I bought it, but it has never slipped.
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PS also makes one piece poles that are friction mounted without a stage. It’s the one I was goin to buy before I decided on a LM. I ended up not getting it because right now my pole has to be in a basement with ceilings undee 8 feet, and I didn’t want to invest $350 on a pole that I may not be able to take with me when I move in a year. The LM was much cheaper. I got it for $230.
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