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    Posted by Tovah on December 21, 2012 at 10:56 am

    I would find it interesting to see a pole that is mixed as in i.e. brass and chrome.

    I was trying to think stripes straight up and down or a swerlie type like a candy cane in re: to grip and wondering which would be the best? (it would be a two in one pole) I suppose one could go as far as adding  powder coated stripes too)

    What do Veeners think?

    Dancing Paws replied 12 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Dwiizie

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 11:34 am

    I think that sounds awesome, when I first saw the topic, I was thinking "Why not just put a brass replacement on an xpole piece or something to see…" then I saw you were talking designs. Checker board would be really cool too, especially if it was like chrome and titaniumgold. I don't know if it would really be "two poles in one" but rather, a texture to the metal which would improve grip, but I wonder how it would do on spins. On a candy cane one, if you spin in the direction of the spiral, would you just follow a perfect spiral around, or just slip right down? What about spinning the other way, would you screech to a stop? Cool idea though, I know I love when people do the "fade" powder coating, like pink at top to a deep sparkling purple at the bottom or vice versa. 😀

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 11:54 am

    If you knew anything about metals this would never work.  First off, chrome is a coating, not a metal in and of itself.  Second, the morphology of the metals is so vastly different there is no way this could even be accomplished. 

     

    And texture on metal does not increase grip.  Ask anyone who has ever poled on a brushed steel pole (or even the first brass XPoles that came out).

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 11:56 am

    And as I read this that first statement sounds a little harsh.  The statement is not meant to be an attack on anyone's intelligence.

  • Dwiizie

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    I can see where it might be read as harsh, but I didn't take it that way. I found it very informative, I didn't even think about those factors or take into account the metal properties.

    So, the brushed steel, I know what it looks like, but what if they did a brushed steel texture, like the whole pole was steel, and they, say, brushed a checkerboard onto it. The little squares of plain steel wouldn't feel super grippy with the texture breaking it up?

  • Dwiizie

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Kinduh like this ring: http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/P13984897a.jpg only not RAISED squares of texture….

  • Dwiizie

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:19 pm
  • Dwiizie

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Meant to say "Kinduh like this ring, only not RAISED texture, just squares of brushed and squares of polished."

  • Lyme Lyte

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    I was just thinking the same thing….I have been having the worst grip w my brass. As some of u know in the past I sandpapered down my chrome and it helped but I finally spray painted it and it has the perfect grip! Now onto the brass, I had to take sandpaper to it since the shine is so pretty, but I was thinking of Roughing up little areas. Glad this thread emerged…….

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    lyme, is your pole patina-ing yet? It gets grippier when it patina's.

     

  • Lyme Lyte

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    It was n I brass o d it

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    As fir the textured surface, I have an experiment for you.  Get a nickel and a quarter.  Now take the tip of your finger and press into the edge and move the coin down the length of your finger tip.  Which one is easier and which one is harder?  With a textured surface on the top of the texture is going to create friction.  It is the same reason we wear minimal clothing…more skin = more grip.  In much the same way, more surface = more grip.  With a textured surface you only have a small portion that is coming in contact with your skin, the rest is an air pocket.

     

    And me being the geek I am found a paper written regarding static friction and human plamar skin on grabrails.  The abstract is kind of interesting:

    The purpose of this study was to investigate the static friction properties between human palmar skin and five grabrail materials (chrome, stainless steel, power-coated steel, textured aluminium and knurled steel) for dry, wet and soapy hands. Thirty subjects (15 female, 15 male) participated in this study, their ages ranging from 19 to 45 years with a mean age of 28 years. The normal force, friction force, and coefficient of static friction were determined by measuring three-dimensional forces while slipping the palm of the hand over the surface of a grabrail. A repeated measures ANOVA indicated that gender, age, hand size and trial effect had no significant influence (p >0.05) on these results. The coefficient of friction (p <0.001) and friction force (p <0.001) were significantly lower when the hand was soapy than when it was dry or wet. The normal force applied when the hand was soapy was significantly greater (p <0.001) than when it was dry or wet. No significant difference was found between dry and wet hands. The two textured materials displayed superior friction properties when the hand was soapy, while the smooth materials performed best when the hand was dry.

     

     

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    let it keep browning. it might help.

  • Dwiizie

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Good stuff Chem!

  • Dancing Paws

    Member
    December 21, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Btw lilmynx can custom powder coat a pole with a design.

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