-
Religious Pole
-
Guys, here is a better video on what they do (what the class it about)….the first vid was kinda unclear and I assumed the studio was called "pole fitness for jesus" I thought that was so odd, because it really limits who may want to dance in that studio. But this vid explains it better. I do agree Jesses that we don't need to justify pole dance by using religion or calling it fitness. This class could be a good option for those who would feel uncomfortable in a "secular" pole setting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jwEdRV5h-60
-
In addition to what Veena has said about this being a way to make more conventional christians feel more comfortable, it sounds like the "Pole for Jesus" class is also being used as a way to worship and meditate which is a wonderful thing. No matter what your beliefs are we all feel like dance is a great way to express and work through emotions and thoughts – even on a spiritual level. So it's not like they're just learning to pole dance, it sounds like it's a way to also honor God – especially with the christian music – it's more than just a gimmick to get christian women in the door.
-
This story got a lot of buzz around here because they talked about it on the radio this morning. I agree with all of Charley's comments. I think that this is great that Christian women would get together and do this. Like Empyrean stated, I don't know if the heels fit into the theme of the class. However, I don't see anything inherently wrong with it either. Maybe it just helps the women when they go home and want to switch from being meditative to being sensual for their husbands https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif.
-
Here's my thought on this. First let me tell you that I am a Christian woman, it's not just a lable for me, I walk the Christian life and honestly feel that my poling doesn't make me in any way shape or form wordly or secular, but to be honest does anyone from my church (which also happens to be my kids private school) know that I pole, NO WAY! Why? Bedcause yep, I would be judged there. Do all Christians judge pole dancing, no! But just like with anyone else who doesnt really respect the art, technique and so on about pole, its very misunderstood. I actually read once that Ballet was once thought to be very permiscous and daring and was thought to be trashy, it wasnt appreciated at first either and now look how well respected ballet has become! Anyways back to what I was saying, I don't hide who i am for anyone…if you know me and we hang out you also know I have a pole in my bedroom! lmao I am not ashmaed of it, my mom is one of my biggest supporters and I have a lot of Christian friends who pole dance too. I have often pondred dancing to my collection of Christian music, which Jungle Cat was the inspiration behind thinking of that. I even have songs that are from Christian singers but not about God, like Flyleaf has a cover song to NIN's Something I Can Never Have, So I have danced to the Flyleaf version and they are a Christian group, now I havent yet gotten comfortable dancing to worship only because a lot of my dance is very sexual, as well as emotional but I dont know how to leave the sexulaity out……..
WITH ALL THAT SAID i would actually like to attend a class like this to help me incorportae a diffrent style of dance. i am already pretty expressive in my dancing but wouldn't know how to do it in a way to give God praises. So I say its a good thing, I like the vid that Veena put up b/c it def explains it better! Its a class give every other Sunday in a Pole dance Studio that happens to be owned by a Christian woman, thats all. I think its a great idea and would hope that the idea spreads.
I read an articel a while ago, im gonna dig it up…its about a church that has poles in it so people can dance during worship, for me, that was over the top! It seemed to be more of a shock value thing, and for me that wuld be too weird. I believe that God gave us these bodies, and even in sexual form, it can be artsy and beatiful but swinging a pole in front of people who see the art behind it is totally diff then going up to the alter and swinging a pole in front of people that (like any human) that might be aroused by it, you feel what i am trying to say?? Im gonna look for that article n post the link for u guys if anyone wants to read it lol
-
Ok this isnt the exact article but this was the Church I was talking about http://www.alittleleaven.com/2007/08/pole-dancing-mi.html Mind you this was in 2008
-
I am still trying to figure out how the two correlates with each other. what does one have to do with the other. I didn't hear her say we go over the sermon and talk about what we got out of it or anything like that. So what your listening to christian music, I could listen to monks chanting on my I tunes does that mean im praising buda. heck no just means im one with my mantra and my pole or what ever they say. I just do not see how it is praising God. but hey thats just my opinion
-
My sister lives in Houston, when she came to visit me last week I dragged her back to Texaswith me to attend a pole graduation. She was so inspired when she returned to Houston she started loking for local classes to attend, and her coworker told her about the pole for jesus ad she heard on the radio. When she called to tell me about it yesterday, I didn't believe it. Too see it here today I am uber shocked lol.
-
I agree with what @charley has said – using dance as a form of religious expression enables them to feel okay about what they are doing. The comments in that article link you posted @mrsbaybeegurl just about made me scream with frustration some of them were so bigoted – I couldn't read anymore. At least these women are feeling okay, no matter how strange the justification seems to us!
-
Am I missing something? The article MrsBaybeegurl posted is a satire…it's fabricated by the author to make fun of pole…but there isnt' really a church claiming to do this.
The second link on PDFJ which Veena posted was quite a bit better than some of the edited interviews I've seen. I still don't see the concept of the heels being necessary but then I'm quite opposed to anyone to who has students learn new stuff in heels anyway. Of course maybe they don't "teach new" at the Sunday classes.
The owner of the studio has a healthy attitude in my opinion and I have to say that this idea is brilliant. Many people are very moved by their Christian and liturgical music and I like how they use a Sunday where these woman have already been to church and are more or less in a spiritual mood to start with. I can see this working very well with some of my clients!
Jungle Cat has been a major influence on this type of dancing and he definitely dances to express his spirituality when he dances to praise. His Easter dancing last year was great!
Just like we are all moved by different types of music. I would be very interested to see how some students would respond to this type of pole session and how much they would open up when they dance!
-
I think the Fox News story might have come off a bit silly but I still think this is great and that everyone should have a voice in pole dancing. We do have many Christian pole dancers so I think it's great there is a place for Christian pole dancers to go. It's no different than sexy dancers taking floor classes and fitness dancers taking fitness themed pole classes.
Mrsmaybeegurl – thanks for sharing your story. I used to have a really hard time with the sexuality and being a christian but over time the two merged together and I think for you they will too. We might move in a provacative way at times but what I find interesting about pole dancing is that we do it for ourselves and other women, so while the dances may be sexual in nature because we're women and wired differently – we just enjoy the beauty that is woman 🙂
-
Hi guys, I just wanted to say sorry for the link I posted, I was searching for the story I found a few years ago, this wasn't it but i thought it was from the same church, not realising it was just a poke fun story 🙁 It was late lastnight when i posted it and Im sorry for the confusion. The article I saw a while back was similiar, in that along with flags and banners and tambourines they also had poles in the church for performances during worship. I couldnt and still cant find that article anywhere! Anyways yeah, the comments to that other link, and what that article was stating is NOT what I meant to post. Like i siaid, i am a Christian and I pole dance and find nothing wrong with it, its opinions like theirs that are nothing short of cruel and judgemental and sadly many of them will never know how in the wrong they are for what they say!
-
@Empyrean
Yes the article is a satire – but read some of the earlier comments on the article, they are awful!
-
pole dance is my form of excercise,religion is another,as sex is another,business is another.i think we all have our own strategies(business or otherwise.well she got it all.brilliant isnt it..LOLS.she got everyones attention.and i think thats good business.
hope i can do that for Japan disaster aid
-
I saw the video and I admit I had a laugh but I thought about it and I kind of like the idea! Good for that studio for reaching out to a new group of women who might never have thought pole could be compatible with their religion! I didn't love her form, but we really only saw a small segment so maybe it's not a fair view of her.
Good on Fox news (I'm generally not a fan) for running the story and being pretty good about it! Some of the comments I saw on YouTube were so terrible though!
-
I agree with Veena re: I thought it was odd to name the studio but it is the class that is called that and it's on a Sunday.
Being a Christian myself and I am on the prayer ministry team at my church as well. I lost a few friends on fb re: me on pole fitness/ pole dancing. I was chastized by one of my long time friends over 20 yrs where we fought one night about it. It was rather unsettling and I was ready to say fairwell my friend and be gone. She turns around and is asking me to help her lose wt. I told her what she needs to do but weather or not she is well…discipline. I don't know what happened but she is one of my best supporters now and so is her daughter. Interestingly enough that another close friend of hers daughter is doing pole fitness in the adjacent town/city east of mine.
I was told in the paoc years ago that dancing was a sin and it devastated me so much my sould cried. I can't explain that either. Anyways, I searched old and new testament re: dance and music.
Dance: Moses sister danced and played the timbral & danced. Exodus 15:20 Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took the timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
2 Sam 6-14 Then David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was wearing a linen ephod.
In the old testament the word dance occurs 9 times. I din't look up danced, dancing, or celebrating for here because it would be too long.
Music/ Noise where for the life of me can't find the article I wrote to a friend re: music/noise and the reference. Anyways, the pre-amble is this: People were approaching a place and from afar it sounded like noise but upon approaching it was worship music with all kinds of instruments playing together in one accord making a sweet sound where a large celebration was taking place.
I find it interesting that many scriptures of dance/music are also in the old testament 'under law' aka and it is mentionned as well in the new testament where we are under Grace/Mercy/& Forgiveness. …
It took me awhile to break off of me what man has imposed on me re: rules & regulations and this is how your to be a good little christian woman…
Women (Christian & non-Christian or aka non-believers) both need a safe place to do pole fitness.
I have been in a studio where it was cheesy and into touching yourself…I thought "You gotta be kidding me, right?"
Anyways, there are some good Gospel/ Christian music out there that is good for pole.
i.e. JoAnn McFatter's cd's are really good for pole -One cd is called Temple Dance (and it's not what you think) This music was intended for soaking or resting in His presence or aka meditation/ and or contemplative prayer. Other cd's by her is "Fire by Night" , I have a few that I personally play on my pole at home alone to because there isn't a Studio that will play for me the music I like or in the mood for. I must say some music in some studio where I was taking private lessons had music that to me was distasteful and would tell her can you change that …to the point where after awhile she new my point. I don't like songs with swear words ….
Words to me spoken or in music are powerful and a good reference to a small book by: Masaru Emoto called, The Miracle Of Water. Our bodies btw are 2/3 water.
Also, at my church in Toronto: We flag, and dance is aloud and in fact encouraged during worship time should you feel like it. In some instances, and amazing to see that dancing in the spirit occurs. I wouldn't mind having a manifestation where poling in the spirit would occur. 😉 I would like that for me anyways and to get lost in it would be a wonderful experience.
I hope everyone has a wonderful poling day! 🙂
Log in to reply.