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Seeking nutrition advice–anyone tried Poletein?
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my ex played professional football and took creatine, NO2, and protein for years, I don't think the team doctors would have okayed it if it was dangerous…
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@mspretty-sure No doc is going to have a player exert their full performance for sake of millions invested in each player for a select amount of time suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure 😉
Honey, the docs care about how the playersare going to perform while they have them; the long term effects are usually overlooked-for example concussions and brain damage from all of the tackles are a long term effect-they happen but still advise them to play knowing these risks/happenings
All of the docs gave the devices and drugs listed in my earlier post when they believed that they were safe or when they outweighed any risks. Science changes over time;that's all I am saying. We used to give women x-rays of their abdomen 40 years ago to see if our bodies could handle a birth for EVERY pregnancy but NOW we know that they are NOT good for fetuses and our reproductive organs/ eyes and thyroids are sensitive to the radioactivity. We now do different things as science has changed or we learned more…
I'll list some links as stated later https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cool.gif
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Sorry girl, do what you do but being a former collegiate athlete myself I do not agree, I don't need links and please don't call me honey.
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@mspretty I am sure others would want to see a true glance at the statistics given from doctors so I will still post, but not for you. Chem posted some links that were a bit outdated so I offered to put some up. I need to get some of the links directly from my professor and directly from my schools database/research.
This thread isn't about me or you but about the those that are seeking nutrition advice as originally stated by the thread operator. I apologize if you took offense to "honey".I was only trying to lay down a nonconfrontational tone.
I know of many "former collegiate athletes" who took various substances into their bodies that were not good for them but they still did; wether you did or didn't isn't the issue. The true issue is if those things are GOOD for us or not and what the science says about us taking those substances into our bodies.
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I am trying to find links to the referenced studies, but this was published in Oxygen magazine about this time last year:
http://www.oxygenmag.com/Competition/Articles/Is-Creatine-Right-For-You.aspx
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Here is the boook on Amazon (published in 2010): http://www.amazon.com/Essentials-Creatine-Sports-Health-Jeffrey/dp/1617377198
From the back cover: "A great deal of misinformation is present in popular culture regarding the effects of creatine supplementation on health and sports performance. For instance, it is not uncommon for various media outlets to claim, in spite of the lack of supporting evidence, that 'supplementing with creatine is harmful to the liver and kidneys and may cause dehydration and cramping.' In reality, creatine is intimately involved in energy metabolism, performance, and training adaptations, and, recently, several studies have uncovered its potential clinical application toward treating various neuromuscular diseases and maintaining brain function. This book unifies the sum of information on how creatine affects body composition, exercise performance, and health. Because the body of data on creatine is ample and constantly growing, a book such as this is a timely and important resource for the clinician, the coach, and the sports scientist."
I am not trying to be argumentive, please do not take that from me. I enjoy debates and learning experiences. If you have studies that you can point me to I would love to read them. As much as I hate to post an article that was written in a magazine I have come to trust much of the articles that have been written by Kennedy Publishing as they really cover their bases and don't write fluff. I am really very harmless and just a knowledge junkie. I know I have pissed off a few people on this board when I have called their views into question but it is never done to be spiteful and the only time I have gotten nasty is when I have been attacked first. I am one who will access pubmed to actually read the studies because I am stupid like that (I also read a lot of federal codes and bills because so much of the media picks and chooses sections instead of understanding the whole thing).
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lol @ chem don't worry no offense will be taken . I too like for both sides of debates to be posted-that is why I said that I will post some stuff-I forgot that I will be watching my brothers kids(ooops) plus my own, one of which I am breastfeeding every 60-90 min. so it is gonna take some time to post the links….one is crying now-so I have to run…will update soonhttps://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif
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Hi Fuzzy!
My best friend is a sales rep at GNC. She seriously knows her stuff. She is also a body builder. I too am aiming to lose weight and build muscle. She put me on a fatburner (Lipo Rush) and i use body fortress' protein. I have one shake a day (usually after i work out) and follow a "Clean" diet. There is a lot of debate that suppliments are harmful etc. I feel that if they were harmful, they simply wouldnt be sold. I have had no ill effects and neither has my friend (shes been taking them for 3+years) also, the people at GNC are always very helpful and they know their stuff.
Hope this helps!!
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I will admit, I am not a huge fan of protein shakes mostly because of taste, and I am not credentialed in nutrition. From a few of the fitness professionals I know there advice for weight/inch loss and strength building is this… 45 minutes of cardio 4 days per week, weight lifting 2-3 days per week, a diet considting of lean proteins and dark leafy greens. Portion sizing is importaint. Idealy 4-6 meals a day.
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I am looking at this thread because I'd like to know how best to maximise my workouts too. I was working out 2/3 times a week until I got a promotion in work. Now I haven't been to the gym in a MONTH and I've only been on my pole twice that whole time. I'm just tired and low on energy a lot and I work 9am-7pm so if I go to the gym at 7.30ish I find that I am far too awake and don't sleep well that night.
Finding it really hard to find a good balance now. Delighted with my new job skills but I am very tired, maybe I'm just in an adjustment phase. Any info on protein shakes or how to take creatine would be great. I need to get back into a fitness routine.. before it turns into another month of nothing. And I was really noticing results before I took this month off too, I hope it comes back fast. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif
Just on a side note to something written above, is Yaz banned in the US now? I take it everyday here in Ireland and I asked my doc about it and he said it's a very low dose pill and not to worry about it. If anyone has info that'd be great. Thanks x
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Here is my two-cents on nutrition.
#1. one size does not fit all. We each have our own unique genetic make-up.
#2. When it comes to food…Momma Nature has got it made in the shade. She knows all sorts of things we do not know. There so many undiscovered things about real food and what it is made up of….so eat "real food" not something from a bottle or bag or wrapper. (when you can, I know it's a little more effort to do that)
#3. Rest and hydration are beauty treatments. When you sleep you generally release growth hormone…..(if you havent jacked yourself up with the wrong food or alcohol before nighty-nite time) This is very important to aging and everthing that goes along with that.
#4. it's phyiscally impossible to "lose body fat" and "gain muscle" at the same time. They are two different hormones that rule this type of process in the body. (I pretty sure someone else already addressed this issue too)
#5. THE NUTRITION INDUSTRY IS NOT REGULATED. They are allowed a 25% le-way on the error margin of figuring out the nutritional content of a product. Also, as long as the mouse turds and dead bugs are down to a dull roar in your food they dont have to tell you that either.
For example….the new trend..no trans fat in a lot of packaged food. I cry "bull?!#$." As long as the amount is under a certain amount per serving they can say that. Have you noticed a trend in these mini servings?
SO MORE PROTEIN… eat one egg…the whole darn thing. There are some amazing nutrients in the yolk. Greek yogurt is great for protein too.
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Thanks for bringing that up Pegasus. Its definitely important to remember that the nutrition industry is NOT regulated the way the medical industry is. And long term effects can sometimes take decades to show up.
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I know this is an old post…but I really like sun warrior protein powder. Its the best I have found…and plant protein is best. I drink vitamineral green powder in purified water daily. It contains spirulina which is super healthy and nutritious for you:) also… if you like beans such as lentils…. you can find a lot of protein with not a lot of calories there. Plus they digest easier than animal protein from meat… helps you get some “good carbs” too to regulate blood sugar! Good luck 🙂
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What happened to poletein? I can't find it on their website.
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I am studying plant based nutrition and will recieve my certificate in august. According to studies by Dr Colin T Campbell from Cornell University and numerous outher studies, too much protein consumption aids in cancer development, heart disease, and numerous other "diseases of affluence". I realize that this is a touchy topic because so much confilicting data from clinical studies are swirling around the media, but much of the misinformation surrounding us is due to monetary gain. It is more profitable to treat symptoms than to prevent disease. If protein is such an important element to an American's diet, why is it that America is suffering from so much heart disease and cancer? and obesity…
In all sincerity, i post this because I am genuinely concerned with the health of all of you. If you are interested in becoming certified yourself, check out eCornell univerisy's website. Also, The China Study is a shocking testimony to the detriment too much protein can do to a person's body.
On a lighter note, I have some pretty decent looking biceps and I eat a whole foods, high carb / low protein diet. I also weigh the same as i did 20 years ago when i was in high school.
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