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Shoulder Hooping
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It made sense to me too, then I was hooping on my lunch break and realized I had said it opposite. It sounds very weird when typed because you're going backwards when it feels like you should be going forwards. I actually played a lot with it today because of this thread. I've found, I can actually make my upper torso stiff as a pencil, and bounce back and forth from leg to leg, creating enough side to side to get that "BEAT" from side to side. No shrugging, no "cat cow-like" movement. Its literally using legs to power the hoop, and the power is so strong, that even the boxiness of the shoulders can't fight it.
I also found that if I hunch up a little, I can use my "shrug" method to hoop anywhere on my arms from shoulder to forearm.
I also discovered that the BACK push on the shoulder shrug carries more power. I naturally hoop to the left. I swirl the hoop around and actually move my RIGHT shoulder back as the hoop comes around, and the left shoulder front (which, again, seems to be AGAINST the rotation of the hoop, but its where the magic is)
I even played around and found that I can shoulder hoop (to the left) focusing almost exclusively on throwing my right shoulder back and letting the left arm/rest of torso go slack. It doesn't have the same effect trying to throw my left shoulder forward.
In second current (to the right, the other way, whatever lol) its all about throwing my left shoulder back, but the mobility on my left is very muted compared to the right (as I am right handed) Its such an interesting move. I remember one of my first ever hooping videos with me trying soooo hard to get the hoop to chest level. I actually yelled at the hoop "Come oooonnnn!!!" lol.
I do moderate the daily practice forum on hooping.org and I've seen waves of beginners, and they all eventually get it, so I truly have faith that anyone determined to do it can.
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And yeah, Caroleeena is definitely awesome. I've not gotten a chance to meet her, but we've spoken online enough times. I recently did a workshop with Brecken. THAT was a fun weekend! I love that Caroleena loves the dance, its not always all about the tricks (though she can throw you some good ones!)
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OK, I need to go hoop! Huh. That is verrrry interesting.
I haven't been on the hooping.org forums, perhaps I should check em out sometime! I went to a Brecken workshop last year (at the after party she commented on my muscles–and then we talked pole–LOL) and Baxter as well. Great, amazing people!
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i tried to do what you described and I couldnt do it (the moving right arm back and left arm fwd and vice versa to the right). i gotta pay attention to what other hoopers do at my jams. I can do the side to side movement though and the 'shrug' to hoop anywhere on the arms.
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I have a short video to post when I finish editing it for no sound.. But for me, I feel the strongest force is in my left arm, when I pull it behind me.. It feels very similar to regular waist hooping in general, actually.
When I really try to think about that flow though and focus on it to keep doing it, I mess it up xP I can only do it when I’m not exactly focusing on it.. Gah. I’m just happy it is improving enough to where I feel like I can practice arm weaving a little bit:)
Right now, it’s nearly impossible with my 37″. My bigger 40whatsit” is muuucchh better to work with
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OOOOO! I might have to join one of those communities! Did you mean Hoopcity.ca? That's what I found by google searching. The .com address is for basketball.
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Yeah, its .ca. I like both sites. hoop city is kind of like Veena, Saffire offers lessons, theres chat, music, forums. Hooping.org is more like a hooping newspaper, photos and videos of the day, forums to specific topics, but not the standard format chat thread. If I ever need to reach a bunch of people or ask a big topic, I usually go to hoopcity, but for daily life, I'm on hooping.org (seems there is less drama there, and more questions asked over and over again. For example, there is a great thread in Beginner Central forum for shoulder hooping, and the mods put the threads mostly together so you don't have to look for 20 different threads.) My screen name Dwiizie everywhere lol, you can find me and friend me, I'm on youtube, Facebook, Myspace, they're all me 🙂
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I should really read before I hit reply lol. I meant, seems there is more drama on hoopcity (IMO), and less repetitive questions on hooping.org. hooping.org also does a lot of articles on hooping, where people are making news, updates on native american hoop dance, articles on hooping in relation to learning, weight loss, brain function, healing, meditation, etc. I dig that its an info hub.
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Sweet! Thanks! Maybe I'll find you on fb, youtube and hoop sites (when I get in there.) I stopped using my myspace FOREVER ago. I tried signing up to hoop city right now, but it won't let me. It isn't accepting my "what is this site about" answers. Really? Hooping, hoops, and hoop are not adequate answers?
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Thats weird….. Maybe try hoopdance or Safire or love or something? I can't remember what I did when I signed up (it was a loong time ago). Yeah, I don't even know if my myspace still exists, I just throw it out there anyway. I heard they deleted everyone who isn't a musician page, but I never looked to see. I have a musician page anyway though (I sing too hehe)
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cool, hoopdance worked. Thanks!
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