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Shouldermount Flip
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I’ve got a SM flip question… (btw, sorry if this has already been addressed before. I couldn’t find it on the site!)
I have been working the flip this evening and was able to (finally) land on the pole. Yay! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif I’m wondering though, if the crazy pole burn/friction on the top of my forearm is normal. My usual shouldermount is on the right shoulder with my right hand on the bottom. I flip this way too, off to the right. From my elbow to halfway down my forearm on the top of my right arm is all red and sore. I’m wondering if this happens to other people on that bottom arm, or if maybe I’m just holding on too long and I got smashed up against the pole just before landing?? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Thanks for any insight!
– Kristina
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what grip are you using? i use double cupped and ahve no problems whatsoever with friction burns!
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Question for Veena and Amy in particular…have you ever done it with the double forward cup? I can sm with double forward really easily and I just can’t work out in my head whether your hands would get twisted up doing a flip with it. I think it would work but i’m not sure if you’d lose all stability once you got over.
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No I haven’t PDR….I would worry about losing contact with my shoulder on the pole at the top of the movement. My fave for the SMF is the Veena grip.
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I think I need to stretch out my shoulders a lot before I try it then. My shoulders are so tight, I worry about pulling in the top bracket. But my shoulders are really, really tight. I can overstretch them just working on reverse grabs.
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what grip are you using? i use double cupped and ahve no problems whatsoever with friction burns!
I use the double cupped grip too… both hands facing the same way, back of the hands towards the back of me… I’m gonna keep trying this evening and see if I can work around this one!
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I can do the flip no problem, but I’m trying to land in a pole sit and I just cant do it! I tried using both different grips too, but I still can’t land in the pole sit! *sigh* maybe I should slow it down???
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I can do the flip no problem, but I’m trying to land in a pole sit and I just cant do it! I tried using both different grips too, but I still can’t land in the pole sit! *sigh* maybe I should slow it down???
yep! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif do it super, super slow. and once you get used to sighting behind you, and seeing your landing pad on the pole, then speed it up. -
I knew there was something else SM I was supposed to be working on! Thanks for the reminder, ladies https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif Currently working on that SM flag type thing, what is the name for that? Can get the position and hold my body in it by lowering it slowly, but I keep ‘wilting’ instead of holding it out flat when I get there…lol. That’s a good one to work on to help with SM strength and control https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif Flip onto pole might actually be easier.
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YAY I DID IT WOO HOO!!!!! haha thanks for the tips, just gotta keep at it i guess then one day it clicks!
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K2weller: you’re supposed to be flipping to the opposite side that your shoulder is on, I think. Maybe that’s why you’re getting friction. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, I still haven’t tried this yet. I just came back and checked on this thread and saw no one had replied to you with a definitive answer.
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no…actually you flip to the same side as the shoulder that is on the pole. Think of it this way…you are rolling on the shoulder all the way back to the other side of the pole. If you flip to other side, your shoulder would have to come off the pole as you turn over. Your shoulder should be the pivoting point on which you flip so you want to keep contact with the pole for as long as possible.
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Awww, thanks for checking on me PDR!
I’m actually realizing that I’m not holding on to the shoulder contact quite long enough at the very end of the flip. I caught it on video and see that I need to slow down the very last part. By focusing too much on the landing, I’m bailing out of the hold too soon, and that’s causing my friction/bruise/ouchiness problems. Don’t you love video?! I’m gonna back it up, forget about the landing on the pole part, and refocus on maintaining my form through the flip.
Cross your fingers! xoxo Kristina
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I’ve had the to-floor flip for a while and gave flipping onto the pole a shot and managed it! Still over-protective of my pubic bone and going into a sit way too far out on my thighs to put it into a combo, but the technique is there. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif Is it meant to be faster? I hold it in a sort of SM pike for ages…
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It’s at 2.37, forgot to mention.
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