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Stealing Photos
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I am not talking editing here, I am talking artistically changed. The art is that of the artist, the photo is that of the photographer. Not that this is who we are speaking of, but many have seen the work of Miter Eme…who is the owner of his work, the person in the photographs or him?? This is quite the similar situation. As to why the person has not removed said photo after being requested to do such I cannot answer.
I am not sure if this will show here or not:
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/252243_478713132155069_1735097063_n.jpg
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However I will reiterate, you cannot state over and over again that someone stole your photo when you sent it to them for use.
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Thanks chemgoddess for sharing this! It is a beautiful picture and a whole other chicken/egg idea of who owns the photo…I guess they probably would have worked that out..? Or maybe not. I'm not so sure, though, how much this applies to the problem that I had and whether or not others have had the same problem. Have you seen the photo that I posted?
https://www.studioveena.com/photos/next/4fe666de-c494-4014-9a11-4acd0ac37250
That is certainly me. have no idea where the person gets off just downloading my picture, cropping the dome of my pole out and making it out to be their own photo–as if it is them instead of me.
As far as editing issues…I certainly don't have any clue. I know there are rights issues and that people are technically supposed to ask for permission and give credit to the people involved–based on the agreement of the permission rights.
However, this in no way applies to how I just look onto my news feed as see that someone stole my photo. I just don't see the connection, proabably just because I am looking through a very narrow window at the moment.
Sorry that I sound so harsh about this, but I am royally teeted off and rather upset. This is not a joke to me…https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_puke_r.gif
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I sent my photo to no one! I never implied that I sent my photo…
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The person who takes the photo is the owner. If the photographer sells the license to an artist (or has some other agreement) to incorporate the image in an art piece, the art piece legitimately belongs to the artist, who can then usually turn around and sell it. It really all comes down to the contract. The artist would typically at least want the rights to display the art piece.
If I send a photo of myself to an artist, assuming I have permission from the photographer, and ask them to create an art piece, it would be customary for the artist to be able to display the resulting art in their portfolio. It would be smart for the artist to ask me to sign an agreement. If I don't want my image made public, it would be smart for me to include that in a written agreement.
The bottom line is that a contract spells out ownership, rights, usage, etc so everyone can be happy and understand clearly what to expect. If you sent your photo to a person for a specific use, it does not imply that ANY use is allowed, just the specified use. I can send a photo to someone to view or even edit without granting them any other rights.
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No, this is just a photo from one of my videos that I posted on my facebook. That is it. The user who stole it was someone who was a mutual friend of a good friend of mine. I did not know this person, nothing ever was said… I just uploaded the photo and then within hours it was reloaded by this user, along with some of their other personal (or perhaps stolen) photos.
I think it is important to know the rights and it seems sweetcaroline knows a great deal about this. Whenever I am interested in havng someone else do some editing for me, then I think this information could really come in handy. This is good stuff to know for anyone, really, who works with anyone who edits photos or even has professional photos taken.
One photographer took photos of me at an recent event (not this photo that was indeed stolen) and he posted them with his logo on facebook. I don't seem to have a problem with this, at all. If I did, I really think that he would remove the photos that I didn't want of me up on facebook–I truly believe he would not want to cause a problem.
But for now, I seem to to feel I have very little control over who can steal my stuff, being that I am personally the photographer/editor/owner/dancer/creator of 97% of my images or videos.
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I think what JC is upset about more than anything is the fact this lady is using HER as her profile picture and claiming it is her. For example if someone took one of my pictures and used it as their profile picture saying it is them is rather forward. Not sure how close you have been following this thread, but someone even commented on the woman’s house decor (which was jellis) and the woman responded as if it was her house too! Yea, the more I think about THIS situation, I would be mad too!
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yes! Thank you lyme lyte. She didn't use it as her profile pic, though, thank goodness. That would have really been sick! She just uploaded me along with her other pictures, while her "friends" commented on it is Spanish, one asking if that was her house–MY house, haha. I'm starting to feel a little better about it. It is a little flattering that she chose to steal my picture, if she thought I looked that good. After 2 kids and I had been poling less than a year in the picture… reminding me of that made me feel better. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_queen.gif
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I am glad your feeling a bit better about it. Sometimes it helps just to vent on here. Lord knows I have in the past……
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@SweetCaroline Excatly! Thats what I ment, but had a hard time explaining it 🙂 I usually always work with a contact stating that both paties have the rights to the picture, when Im the model. When Im the editor it depends on wether or not its paid work. When I get paid to edit for a photographer, I usually sign of any rights, since it costs them money. When I edit tfp work, we both have rights so that I can display my work for others to see, so they may hire me them selves, in the future. Often I also edit my own, even that is under contract.
@Chemgoddes1 to me edit and artistically changed is the same thing. If someone took a picture of mine and put me in another background without permission, that would be illegal since I have the ownership of that picture (so does the photographer) and I would be very upset about that also. (this has happenede before and I got the picture down, because the person whom edited it (artisically) had in fact stolen my picture. I dont understand the continuous statement that you should not send your picture to someone, and then claim that they've stolen it, I dont see that anywhere in this thread. Jelli had someone steal her photo and claim they where her. That is stealing. I dont believe she said she had sent the photo to that person.
Anyway, I tried clicking the link just now, and I cant see the profile anymore. 🙂 Hope its gone.
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JelliCrew and CreativityBySteffie, my comments were not aimed at Jelli's situation.
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"However I will reiterate, you cannot state over and over again that someone stole your photo when you sent it to them for use."
But who said that over and over again? Just trying to understand 🙂
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Understanding comes from reading your emails…..
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Im sorry for the confusion. I thought it was regarding Jelli's situation. 🙂
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Anyone wishing to understand their rights in regards to Media posted in public domain (on the web in particular) should learn about Creative Commons and also understand the terms and conditions of the site where you Open an account and post that media. Check out newmediarights site (guide): http://www.newmediarights.org/legal_how_to_guides_for_citizen_media_creators_online_publishing
When you post media online, if you do not specify the rights under which you claim ownership of that content, you may have already relinquished your rights to it, by the contract you agreed upon with the site. It's a slippery slope so it's always advisable to post only material you expect may be used somewhere else out of your control. Facebook being of concern, I'd urge you all to understand the Terms of Service for FB.
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