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Talk to me about hyper elasticity and pole.
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I look for hyperextended elbows, and if that’s a sign of EDS it doesn’t mean that it IS, right? Or do you have EDS, megsmith? What are other things to look for besides elbows & scapula?
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Sparrow I don’t know much about eds, but you are right. Hyperextended elbows alone, are not a sign of EDS. I know I don’t have eds , I am just hyper mobile in certain areas. Maybe someone here has it and can tell us more. 🙂
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Oh, angel just said she has it! I didn’t read that. This is all very interesting.
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You can be hypermobile without having EDS; lots of dancers and gymnasts are.
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Nope i have not got EDS – I Just have very hyperelastic eblows. Sorry i presumed sparrow ment how do you tell if you are hype mobile not if you have EDS – i guess only a doctor can tell you that part 🙂 will upload a clip of my handspring in a min so you can see what it not ment to look like on a pole :-/
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No probs, meg…just realized I did not specify what I was referring to, lol. Sorry for your issues 🙁
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1279/?report=reader A very thorough description of EDS and diagnosis. Pg 18-19 really talks about management.
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should also say mine has never once hurt or been any problem at all BUT i just want to make sure it stays that way 🙂
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https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/535d3b50-dc50-48d1-b36c-546c0a9aa0eb there is the vid :-/ be kind haha!!
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Thank you everyone for your input! This is great because when I googled hyper elasticity and pole nothing useful came up.
As far as having a hyper extending elbow goes, I have one. From my forensic anthropology studies I can tell you that it could also be a skeletal structural issue as well as a connective tissue issue. It is more common in females and is due to a notch in the humerus that the ulna rests in when your arms are extended. If that notch is extra deep or is actually a hole that goes all the way through your arm will hyperextend. So there is that as well to consider for those of us that have hyper extending elbows but are otherwise not very flexible. Like me, ha ha. So we elbow hyperextenders should never, ever lock our elbows because the lines of force don’t line up through the lower and upper arm. At all. The angles are more pronounced than those whose elbows don’t hyper extend and puts us at high risk of ripping the elbow apart when we are bearing weight on it. Thank you again Veena family for all the info as I had no idea about EDS before this tread. 🙂 -
I have to watch my elbows 🙂
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The elbow hyperextension seems really common (among women), I’ve got them as well. Didn’t know it was due to the bones, so thanks Jackie C for the info. I’ve not experienced any trouble with them during my 5 years of training.
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Thanks Korinne for posting that article, my doc wrote it but I had never read it! The reason I was diagnosed with EDS was due to (what I thought at the time) were unrelated issues – I often had “blackouts” when I stood up, even to the point of fainting. Testing for that led to a ’tilt table test’ where I tested positive for Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, a condition where my heart rate would pound to compensate for a dramatic drop in my blood pressure when I stood up. Sooooo, to try to find out WHY I had that, I kept coming across EDS. I found this chart pictured here: http://www.physio-pedia.com/Beighton_score and I realized I could do all the things in the picture. Thumbs to wrist, knees bend back, elbow bend back, could touch floor with my palms with straight legs, pinkies bend back more than 90 degrees. Seeing that convinced me i had EDS, so I found a specialist, Dr. Howard Levy, and he confirmed the diagnosis. As a fitness instructor, remember that you cannot really look for it in your students or diagnose anything. Your responsibility is to make sure that your students are not progressing to weight bearing exercise before they have built the strength for them ie. they are in the appropriate level class. That you keep joints in their proper range of motion (no hyperflexing or hyperextending) and that you include the proper conditioning exercises in class so they build strength. You should also repeat ad-nauseum that if your students feel pain, they need to STOP whatever it is that is causing the pain and don’t let them back into the studio until they get medical clearance.
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I could never dx anyone, but i was wondering–bc cleo was mentioned in this thread and she is known for her extreme flexxy–that when watching videos of polers what one might notice that could point to EDS or hypermobility. Basically, what goes beyond the range of just having worked damn hard for flexibility into what most of us could never aspire to (or should aspire to) 🙂
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Kind of off topic kind of not… I think Cleo said she didn’t get her splits until she was almost 30 years old? I think I heard her say that somewhere. But yes, she is freakishly flexible. so weird seeing pictures of her in a straddle on her back where her legs are touching the floor behind her. someone posted a pic of that on another thread here. Okay sorry to digress..
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