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The Janeiro
I still can't do the Janeiro. I have tried, I think 60 attempts, and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I have seen a lot of videos. But it didn't help me:(
Have anyone soms tips or advice?
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Try posting YOUR video… 🙂
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Yup, post your video b/c everyone here is really great about giving good advice–and always in the nicest, friendliest way possible!
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Have you tried more than one entry method, I have seen it done 2 ways. First (and most common I think) from Brass Monkey – Eros – Janeiro This is how Veena did it it her recent video. Secondly from CKR/CLR – Bow and Arrow/Archer – Janeiro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYESpVLx1bc to see what I mean. Now, I am nowhere near ready to try this move, but to me it looks easier from the CKR/CLR at least in theory…in my mind…but I don't see many people trying it this way so maybe I am dead nuts wrong! 😛
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Working in this I came at it in both of the ways mentioned above. I actually found the brass monkey entry easier. I flat out can’t do it yet from CAR or CKR. I have a video up called New Tricks that shows my entry. I have to hook the free foot (in the brass monkey) kinda funky to help lower me down into it. You want to try to rest your hip on your elbow. Once your hips are low enough you’ll start to feel the balance of it. You also need to arch the back and lean into the pole or you feel like you’re falling forward. I hope any of that helps! It’s a tricky balancing act, this move.
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I don't know if your problem is the same as mine was but I was putting my arm TOO LOW. What I found was that as I was putting weight on the "Shelf" if it was too low I would slip out – you want to start with your elbow pointing up – then twist your leg into a turn out and plant the the divet in your hip onto your elbow/bicep and slowly come dow – as you add weight your "shelf" will flatten out – that's why you want to start with inside forearm frip high enough to sustain the weight about to be placed on it.
I hope that helps. For what it's worth Is till can't do it without a mirror – I need to be able SEE where my inside arm is or else I keep planting it too low.
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I think this is another one where back flexibility is preventing me from properly executing the move. Try as I amy, I do not bend that way. I iwll come back to it as I become more flexible I guess. If I am ever able to even get that flexible. I have issuse even grabbing the pole once I lay back from a CAR. My back is not flexible at all.
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I took a workshop with Marion Crampe where she taught us the Janeiro. She told us that poor back flexibility wouldn't stop you from learning the move but having a flexible back would make the position more comfortable. She does hers from a CKR. She did a tutorial video that might help you. I'm still working on balancing by myself but her explanation really worked for me
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https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/50538457-d954-4ef1-99cc-1c680ac37250
I posted a video of this move. I still can;t get it:(
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For me, I kept thinking I was messing up and couldn’t bend in that direction lifting my chest up. So, I was too scared to let go of the other arm. I was told to first let go of the other arm THEN lift my chest and lean back. This worked instantly. You cannot bend that way with proper chest with the other arm holding you down literally.
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In a workshop I took with Marion in July she taught it from a brass monkey – she had us go into a plank and then into janeiro
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go into it from my fallen angel (cross ankle release)
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Just wondering if arm length has any bearing to whether you can achieve this move or not? I cant seem to find my elbow even trying to enter from CAR or brass monkey, ensuring there is a shelf, on a 40mm pole, with tuition, with various pole vid tutorials etc etc just cant seem to get it. My back is very bendy too (I can chest stand) but when I measured the length from my shoulder to elbow against other girls mine is shorter by 1-2 inches. Im getting convinced that its the length of my arm that is preventing me from achieving this trick!
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I can attest that Karol is tiny all over, arms included, and she can bust this out.
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Post a video of yourself trying it and I bet we could give you tips!
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Please do post a vid if u can, mizzli. I’m curious myself as I am convinced I have a similar issue w/this trick (in spite of also being strong & plenty bendy, & understand the mechanics of the trick pretty well) but I would LOVE to be persuaded otherwise… So far, tho, the #s seem to be tell-tale… Pole-geek alert (skip the rest of this post if you hate math): do you know your “ape-factor” ? This is your wingspan-to-height ratio, common sports science stat of interest in basketball players, possibly athletes of other sports too (sorry this kind of thing has inevitably filtered into my brain with sports nut/nerd hubby by my side over so many years)… The theoretical perfect balance/proportion on a human is 1-1 (for sports like basketball, swimming, rowing, etc., higher ratio is better). Mine is on the low side, I forget the exact value, but it’s definitely under 1, and I know I am “short” by about 1″ (maybe a bit more) overall, so about 1/2″ per side (in other words, I officially “technically” have short arms, LOL). This 1/2″ difference might not sound like much but if you’ve come this far in pole then you’ve all had experiences learning different things where we get the powerful understanding that “every little bit counts”. I am rather “tiny all around” too, albeit not quite as much so as Karol, given I’m quite a bit more hippy/leggy than she is (ironically warranting probably just that much “longer” of a shelf for *my* Janeiro whereas my arms don’t even create the standard “minimum” size … But I’ve also been around Karol (& watched her perform her Janeiro dozens of times) and I know she’s got quite some limbs on her, hence I’m guessing she has a higher ape-factor. From time to time I test this on my students & other instructors, & it’s interesting how the results are very telling, especially as the ape-factor tends to jive well with what moves that person tends to favor or just naturally excel at.
Anyway, check that on yourself (lying on the floor against a wall I think renders most accurate results) & please do report back — I am very curious what your ape-factor is… I will try to get a video of my own Janeiro attempts to post here as well.
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