V cradle spin with no hands

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V cradle spin with no hands

Posted by Polkadotpoler on January 3, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Back in November I saw a move on a video which I swear was on this site. The dancer was using spinning and was in a V Cradle spin and took her hands off the pole and appeared to be holding herself with her stomach and presumably her thighs. I can't find the video anymore but I also can't work out the logistics of the spin.

Does anyone:

A) know what I am talking about, and

B) know how to do it and can help me out?

Veena replied 13 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
11 Replies

amy

Member
January 3, 2011 at 3:39 pm

the spin only works on a spin mode pole. you're clamping the pole between your stomach and thighs. it hurts me like a mofo, but some people seem to have no problem with it.

you can see one way to get into it here, david does it about :06 in, also he discusses entry in the comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M7pd1Biriw
Polkadotpoler

Member
January 3, 2011 at 4:02 pm

YES that is it! I figured it was a spin mode only, I can't imagine trying to make it work on static – there would be no skin left.

Thanks Amy, I am off to bruise myself silly!
carriej

Member
January 3, 2011 at 5:45 pm

Thanks for asking polkadot! Every so often I wonder about that spin, but then my brain scatters off somewhere! I also figured it was a spin only move but wasn't sure.
Polkadotpoler

Member
January 3, 2011 at 5:56 pm

I also found this video and she uses her arms to hold herself into the pole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO34RFwoulo&feature=related
Veena

Administrator
January 3, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Good observation Polkadotpoler! I like to use my arms in this hold as well, helps tremendously! You also need a good amount of flexiblity in the hamstrings https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_flower.gif
Polkadotpoler

Member
January 3, 2011 at 6:08 pm

Hmmm… flexibility not so much in my case https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif but I'm working on it.
StellarMotion

Member
January 3, 2011 at 8:49 pm

Hi friends! I just wanted to share that it is also possible to perform this move on a static pole. Denise Brown thought it would be a good idea to go out to the bar the night before I did workshops at Vertical Expressions (LOL) and this is one of the things that happened there. http://www.youtube.com/user/neecierules#p/a/u/1/TIQyed2iVxU

I do teach the no-hand cradle spin on static pole, and recommend that this move be done before you are fully warmed up. You will get more rotation and less friction pain if you are only slightly warmed up when attempting this, because being fully warmed up increases the grip quality of your skin.

Here is another video which is all about the no-hand cradle, and it is actually the very night I discovered it might be possible to perform on static thanks to Stephanie. I had been drinking when this was made and obviously was having a hard time putting my thoughts together! https://www.studioveena.com/videos/view/46af99ae-bcf6-11df-856f-001b214581be
ottersocks

Member
January 3, 2011 at 9:32 pm

PLEASE be careful if trying this on static!! I can't remember the details of who or where, but Fleur spoke with someone who had done this and ended up with internal tearing from it. Her stomach gripped on, and things tore inside. I believe there was surgery involved and it was quite bad. I recommend trying it only as a HOLD on static, and as a spin on spinny mode.
StellarMotion

Member
January 3, 2011 at 10:15 pm

Hi Ottersocks,

thanks for sharing this information. I definitely don't want to teach any move if it has a higher danger potential than other pole moves may. In fact I have already entirely quit teaching twisted grip lift and Phoenix for this reason. I would be interested in finding out more about the mechanics behind this injury and if it has happened to other dancers. But until I get more informed about this, I'll put teaching the static handsfree cradle on hold since it can be done on spinning pole or another fun and impressive skill can be taught instead. If you come across any more information about this injury that you have liberty to share, I would be interested and grateful.
AliciaPolerina

Member
January 4, 2011 at 11:44 am

I think all my tummy flub prevents me from doing this move haha
Veena

Administrator
January 4, 2011 at 12:45 pm

Women who have had babies or lost a lot of weight should also be careful on both spin and static. Once the skin has been stretched out and has stretch marks and such, its weaker/thinner and many times the loose skin will get caught!! Trust me I know loose skin sticks well to a pole!!! For anyone who falls in that category I would suggest you work on this move with a tank top or shirt covering the abdomen. You'll have to focus more on holding with the front of the thighs and bottom forearm more but thats how I first worked on it. I still don't perform this move too often.