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Just wanted to pop in and say how grateful I am for Veena because this is what’s out there on YouTube as “beginner”. It is a miracle we don’t have people becoming quadriplegics.
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Seeing videos like this one makes me so damn angry! Is she making fun of us???? Thanks for posting though as this reminds me again of what an awesome pole teacher we have. Veena, you’re the best!!!!
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I don’t consider those to be beginner level either. She does however, explain what beginner level means to her and it makes more sense to understand where she is coming from. I think she could select a more appropriate word like fundamental pole tricks , or something. After I read her explanation it made more sense. But I do feel this is very confusing and misleading for someone who is a true beginner or wanting to start pole. She does explain that some of these moves may take a few years to master. I think it’s just a poor choice of words and not intentional misleading.
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You are right, Phoenix. I just read her explanation and the video makes more sense to me now. But still, the word “beginner” is very misleading. If not dangerous. “Fundamental” would be more appropriate, but then you don’t necessarily have to be able to do a straight legged invert to proceed with upside down tricks, just to name one example. Thank you for discovering her explanation below the video, I am less angry now π But still very happy to have Veena and this community and to not learn on youtube…
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Hehe! no, I totally agree with you it is misleading and you really dont have to do things like aerial straight leg invert to progress. π Ive been poling 2 years and still can do those! and I can still do alot of things. yes,I’m glad we have this website too! youtube can be very dangerous for learning for sure. I almost get a little frustrated that people dont respect pole enough to get lessons here or at a studio. I understand there are some very talented people who just do it on their own. But I hear so many girls saying they will just use youtube. it’s like they think this is easy or something. no one would ever say I’m gonna learn how to do gymnastics uneven bars from youtube. I dont need a gymnastics coach! it doesnt get the proper respect for difficulty, safety, etc. And I’ve had people tell me,well I do cross-fit, I lift weights, I will be fine. Pole doesnt get the recognition it deserves. But I have also found that alot of those people quit. they try it, realize its not something they are good at right away and they give up. Pole is hard. not all of it is hard, but what most people tell me they want to do is hard. Inverting is hard. period. and people expect to invert their first day. Some do invert their first day but it doesnt mean they are doing it safely. ugggghhhhhh! ok, I will stop ranting. hahahaha!
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Yes, let’s stop ranting π We both agree… We love pole because it is hard, because we have to fight for it, and we take it seriously because we love it. And we don’t want anybody dancing in front of our noses telling us it is easy, or that we have to do aerial straight leg inverts to consider ourselves real pole dancers with fundamental skills. Because we are. And the aerial straight leg invert will be ours one day. Yay!!!
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Hahahaha! Yes! It’s so true! Aerial straight leg inverts shall be ours one day! π
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Straight legged inverts are about style, imo, and not a requirement for anything. You could potentially conquer every pole love and never actually do a straight leg invert
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I seen the same video too!. That’s ridiculous. I also bought my first video with my pole and it has the Teddy as part of the beginner routine as well
Too much stuff that’s inappropriate for beginners out there. Funny thing is I kept trying to do it because it was considered beginner, so I thought I should be able to do it then. Thank. God I came across Veena’s lessons and if I’m not mistaken the Teddy is under advanced. Oh yeah thanks Veena I can do the Teddy now lol -
Thank you all for the kind comments. I do wish the term beginner would be used with a bit more caution, many people leave pole or end up injured because someone on YT said a new dancer should be able to do XY and Z. I know YT posters often have good intentions (sometimes they just want views) but I understand that a poster may not be aware of how they could be affecting someones progress or potential so speaking poorly of them or writing anything nasty to them is never a good solution. I know you guys aren’t saying that’s what we should do, but just putting that out there for anyone who comes across this thread!
I truly do have a passion for creating a safe space that feels encouraging instead of discouraging. Videos like the one linked in above is one of the many reasons why I wanted the Veena Method course to be free. I want pole to grow, and grow!!!
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Very true Veena. In fact I don’t think the intention of her video is to teach. I feel she is showcasing her skills and actually showing people that pole does require a lot of skill and training. YouTube is actually a good venue to do that. You just have to let people do their thing and just use your own judgment.
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I guess she meant basics.
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That’s kind of what I was thinking too
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Sorry, didn’t mean to come off so negative, I just came across that and was appalled. It is hard for me to stick to the order Veena has things in but I know they are in that order for a reason. Thanks Veena!
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Catsanctuary, I dont think you came across negative at all. π
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Oh I don’t think you came off as negative either Γ°ΕΈβΕ
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