StudioVeena.com Forums Discussions What’s going on with xpoleus?

  • quancutie23

    Member
    April 24, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    I honestly dont even think xpole knows. Id rather them not advertise product or talk about it if ppl cant buy it.there is no date they just keep saying comming soon maybe. Yeah ok whatever.thats why im not gonna buy any of there poles now im just going to wait for there top secret comming soon maybe new product to come out

  • azblanco

    Member
    April 24, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    I personally despise the “beating around the bush” or anticipation strategy when it comes to marketing… And that’s what I feel like they are doing… Marketing.
    I could be wrong in my assumptions…
    From my understanding, they had a huge warehouse first months back and lost a lot of their stock supplies??
    Who knows, but I agree. They shouldn’t “announce” new product releases unless they plan on telling us what the products are with an “official” release date…

  • azblanco

    Member
    April 24, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    warehouse fire***

  • azblanco

    Member
    April 24, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    I will add… If this is the type of approach they are using just so they can sell more poles– I personally would never choose to do business with a company that uses this type of approach.
    But maybe this is not the case- because if it were, they wouldn’t be able to sustain this type of consumer anticipation for very long. Eventually people will get fed up..

    Apologies if these seems like negativity, but sometimes larger companies have a way of doing this..

  • quancutie23

    Member
    April 25, 2014 at 12:19 am

    I agree with you AZBLANCO. first warehouse fire ,short supplies, flood what next… maybe they should move production to the great USA rather over seas. idk thats just my opinion too

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    April 25, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Sadly their prices would skyrocket if they were made here…….

  • Webmaster

    Administrator
    April 25, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    It should be noted that were X-Pole to take the patriotic approach they would be made in the UK as that is where X-Pole is from. Instead X-Pole has chosen to take the route that helps insure it is affordable to purchase worldwide.

  • LilyG3013

    Member
    April 25, 2014 at 3:30 pm

    I’m just asking because I finally have money AND know which one I want and now it’s not there and there’s “new” coming soon.

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    April 25, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    If I hear one more person say that xpole should move their manufacturing stateside…

    A) wild assumption that xpole is a us company just because they have offices here when, as you say webs, they are not
    B) blatant sense of superiority that US made goods are better quality when part of the reason US has lost manufacturing jobs to other countries is that American made products for years were notorious for being absolutely horrible quality (1990s GM vehicles, anyone?) and do not get me started about the OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY between xpoles and some other poles that are “proudly made in the USA” that could hurt you if you danced on them. Moreover, just because a company advertises that they assemble in the US…guarantee that the parts they use come from a global market. The steel for the components was probably mined and refined in another country. The nuts and bolts were probably cast in another country. The cardboard boxes the pole ships in were probably made in another country. It’s silly, goods assembled from multiple components are almost guaranteed to be “international” goods in some sense.
    C) blatant ethno-centric idea that somehow people in the US deserve to have jobs more than people in other countries, or that it’s morally superior to support workers in the US by avoiding products made elsewhere. Do those people in other countries not deserve to have jobs? Do those millions of people deserve to lose their jobs and be thrown into poverty over a boycott of perfectly acceptable quality goods not made in the same country someone happens to live in and thinks is the best? Got news, patriots…plenty of people in the world wouldn’t live in the US if you paid them to.

    I know there is the issue that the US often has fairer laws for workers than other countries, and I do believe all workers everywhere deserve to be treated fairly, but we’re not going to make third-world laborers any better off by causing their sources of income to close down.

    Sorry, all of this is ranting that is totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I just am getting really, really sick of people dissing xpole because they don’t manufacture in the US as though being a US company inherently makes one company better than another. That’s, frankly, a really nationalistic and xenophobic view of what is, in reality, a completely global market for goods.

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    April 25, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Also just to be clear, the above rant wasn’t an attack on anyone here, just me going on tangent because I’ve seen this “buy American made” crap going around a lot lately and frankly, it doesn’t hold water.

  • Stephanie X Pole

    Member
    April 25, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Hey everyone! I know its been a frustrating time for some people eagerly awaiting their poles- and some people have a lot of questions about what X-Pole has been up to.

    It has been a very transitional time for us with new products launching. The X-Pole factory is fulfilling orders worldwide as well as to the USA, and there has been a delay on shipments. We do apologize! We prefer not to give an exact date on product arrival because we do not wish to disappoint!

    New product will be rolling out May 1st!

    Yes we have already seen, tried, and tested the New 2014 X-Perts- and they are worth the wait! The new poles are beautiful- same tested and true strong cores, and we love the new upgrades. We certainly do know about our product- so if you ever have questions or doubts, you can call us. We have listened to our customer feedback, as well as feedback from the Pole stars, and our X-Pole Team. These upgrades have been made with you at the forefront!
    Please watch our New X-Pert video here:
    [youtu.be]

    More new product will be rolling out this summer 2014! And we promise to provide you with up to date information as it comes to us! If you ever have questions, we are happy help- just give us a call or shoot us an email: info@xpoleus.com.

    Thank you so much everyone for your patience and support!!

  • tigerlillies

    Member
    April 26, 2014 at 2:40 am

    Poledanceromance the reason ppl say buy American made isn’t because we think America is superior to any other country. It’s because as you said pl need jobs and an income the jobs you said we would be taken from other countries were taken from us why because it is cheaper to have other countries make the products not because America makes crappy products. American government saw a way to ace money by out sourcing why pay some company here 500 to make something when you can pay another country 100. That’s what it boiled down to cheap labor. There are thousands of unemployed ppl in America why because companies shut down and went over seas companies that have been around for decades even. So when ppl say but American they say it because they want to put money back into their country and start lowering the unemployment rate. So everything you said could happen to the low paid workers of other countries who now do all the manufacturing and production of products sold here has already happened to us. We are in debt up to our ears because of out sourcing and helping other countries we are just trying to rebuild as a country and want to see families with nothing from losing their jobs be able to care for themselves and their children. I love other countries everyone their customs and languages and history so no I don’t see America as the greatest place I see it as the same as any country with its good and bad and I see that like other places it’s ppl are just trying to survive too.

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    April 26, 2014 at 8:05 am

    It’s really not that simple. One of the reasons the outsourcing happened is that people were no longer willing to buy American made products because the quality was so low relative to the price being so high. You also have to consider that the reason for this is that business owners are constantly trying to serve their own shareholders above any other interest.
    It doesn’t really have anything to do with “the government.” That’s just incorrect. Frankly, the CEOs are not willing to make a few thousand dollars per year less in profit to spend the extra money it costs to manufacture things here. That’s not really the government’s fault, that’s the fault of BIG businesses who CHOSE to outsource to other countries.
    Thirdly, you did not address my actual point. My point is that “buying American” is a completely pointless idea when all you are doing is ensuring that some pieces were put together in the United States, but all of those pieces come from other countries in some way. Even steel that we mine here, we ship overseas to process, and then ship it back here to sell. They even do this with American meat and fish; it gets raised here, shipped to China for processing, and then shipped back here to sell, and it’s actually cheaper. There is no way to really “buy American” and AVOID supporting “outsourced” jobs. My point is that, the way modern goods come to be, pretty much everything that is a manufactured good is basically an international product. Moreover, the businesses who make thee products know this. They aren’t assembling their products in the US and telling you “buy American!” for any altruistic reason. If a company is telling you to “buy American,” they have done this purely as an advertising strategy to get you to buy their product for a reason other than the merit of the value of the product itself. They’re saying “don’t compare the pros and cons of our actual product to another product, just buy ours because it’s ‘made in America’ and the other guy’s is not!” What I’m saying is that, because of the nature of manufactured goods and the fact that essentially all manufactured goods have parts and labor from all over the world, usually when you see an “American made” label on something like a pole, that’s more of a sales gimmick than it is truth, because it deceives you into thinking all the components and everything are American when they are not. Lastly, I would ask you to really consider that the problem is NOT with our government, but with governments of other less developed countries who don’t have any labor laws, who allow a factory to hire five year olds to work 15 hour days sewing your jeans together for $0.50 per day. And right now, there’s few ways we can avoid products coming from that. And there is no practical way that any country who stands up for fair labor laws will be able to compete with that. If we altogether as a people stand up for each other and demand fair labor laws for every person in the world, this difference will be completely eliminated. Again, this is not the fault of our government, but of the owners of American businesses deciding they would rather use a sweat shop of 5 year olds in Cambodia than hire American workers to make their products because the business owner gets another $10k per year in his wallet if he does. The fault lies squarely with the owner of a business who would rather take advantage of people who work without labor protections than pay workers here fairly. That is not your government’s fault, it’s strictly a profit-driven choice by American business owners. Ultimately, I think the best way we have to end the problem of people taking advantage of poor labor laws is to continue to support the international goods market, because once a country is actively engaging in global markets, the international community can leverage that part of a country’s economy to push them into passing fair labor laws that level the playing field on both human rights and jobs.

    Of course, none of that is really relevant to x-pole because I’m pretty sure they aren’t purposefully seeking out sweatshops in rural Cambodia (nike does though lol), just using Chinese-processed steel components which basically everyone does.

    Moreover, all of this is irrelevant when we are talking about xpole, because a company that is not an American company is under no kind of moral imperative to have their manufacturing in the US. A UK company does not deserve to be boycotted for not having their manufacturing in the US.

  • poledanceromance

    Member
    April 26, 2014 at 8:41 am

    Anyway, my literal only point with this is to be extreme skeptical when you hear the “buy American” quote used by a company that manufactures. Be aware that there is more advertising gimmick to that than there is truth.

    For example, American car makers say “buy American!” But their parts are all coming from overseas. In fact, if you want to buy the “most American car you possibly can,” you would have to buy a Toyota Corolla, because even though they are a Japanese country, their cars are made and assembled here.

    Be skeptical and discerning. Most companies that say “buy American!” Are doing it to make more money, not because they actually care about American jobs as much as you do.

  • WebJunk

    Member
    April 26, 2014 at 8:52 am

    Gave this a lot of thought, nearly 3 minutes with my morning coffee. Need to get this out before the caffeine kicks in.

    Here are the Seven facts.

    1. What is the best country?
    Whatever country I am poling in right now.
    2. Why Americans want american made poles?
    We Don’t trust that Easter Island-made crap.
    3. Why no one likes poles from foreign companies?
    We want to fully understand the person yelling at us that the pole & us fell down because we set it up wrong.
    4. Why are Americans afraid of European poles?
    Do the Poles really know how to make poles? (Actually they have been doing that for centuries!)
    5. How is Chinese metal different from american metal?
    Its predominantly american recycled cans, cars and other steel. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/13/business/china-s-need-for-metal-keeps-us-scrap-dealers-scrounging.html So your pole could have been a Pontiac Aztek!
    6. What is the best pole manufacturer in the world?
    Not the one in the latest YouTube Pole Failure video.

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