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You. With the coffee. I fucking love you.
High five!!!!
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Patriotism (alongside with some other noble feelings) doesn’t last longer than the distance to the closest bank. Haha.
PDR, good example about the cars. Not that I’m American (nor Japanese). No, I’m from the place which produces Epic Splits. Beat that.
WebJunk, with 2) you pretty much fortified the idea that everyone around the world (surely including those on Easter Island) have regarding American geography knowledge :P.
Poles still don’t know how to properly make poles or how to Polish them. I bet those were the ones in that latest youtube failure video!
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Totally not on the topic of xpole at all, but instead on the topic of US made things… I think when most people think of the terms “Made in the USA,” “US Made,” and support American companies, they are buying into the gimmicks and “green-washing” that is popular right now (because doesn’t it make sense it is more ecofriendly to buy “locally made” products?). But, what originally started this whole made in the us thing is when it became popular to support local, small businesses. Yes, parts and materials are often from other places as not only is manufacturing and extracting certain things not doable in the US, but also because we are a part of the whole world trading system. I would like to add my small knowledge of US manufacturing in regards to what poledancerromance was saying. We are actually the largest manufacturer of goods in the world, yes even more than China. I do not know the ratio of goods completed from start to finish here, but I do know that we do not ship out most of the steel anymore. Most steel companies in the US manufacture from start to finish within their own facilities. Also, to avoid the whole meat/fish being outsourced, this is a prime example of why it is so important to buy local meat from a trusted farmer who will definitely NOT be outsourcing. And I am not even sure how much we truly outsource our food products as I know from living on the East Coast there are TONS of animal product manufacturers there. I can’t see that happening a lot and I would love to find the resource in which you got that information. Not that I am saying it is not true, but that I love to do research on those subjects and would love to read more about it. Also, as far as workers in other countries get “fair wages,” I totally believe in that, but I also know that we cannot expect a worker in a poor/third world country to get what we expect to be fair. It takes so much less for most of these people to live then it does for us to live because of the way their own economies are. I live in a place in which tourism is very popular and people from all over the world come here to work. I talk to a lot of young adults that come here from eastern European countries (Moldova, Bulgaria, etc.) and even some Asian countries that work all summer long (about four months) and make more than they could in a whole year where ever they are from. I know some kids who were in college and could pay a few years’ tuition in one summer working here. The cost of living is so high there and the wages are still so low. But, the cost of the important things (food and such) is super low; it’s just the luxury items that are costly. It would be asinine to assume that we need to help regulate those wages as much as some people do because can you imagine what would happen if a worker could make $50 a day working in a “wage managed” facility and the other people working their asses off at local places making maybe $20 a day how much that would throw off their economy? Some places could not handle that extreme influx of monies. It would create distress and all kinds of crime. The best way to offset that is to try to find companies that support working with co-ops in other countries that help to make sure their workers are supplied with enough to take care of their families. That is the main and important goal here. I do not think that products made in the US are superior by any means; some may be and some may not be. But it is good to try to support that which does come from our own backyard; it creates jobs, helps our own economies, and is better environmentally. I like to buy reused as much as I can because then, no matter where it is from, I feel good about extending the life of those products. I’m lucky living in Alaska because we can be so self sufficient here because we have the means to do so. There is not very many places you can experience that freedom. Oh, and just to clarify, I am not attacking any one’s response on these things, I am just interested in these types of matters and I like to discuss them!! The more I discuss, the more I learn about new ideas that broadens my own frame of mind. I think healthy debate is just that, healthy!! 🙂
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Good points Goddess KK, I don’t think people who are wanting to buy US made are wanting to deny workers of wages in other countries or necessarily feel the U.S. is superior.
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It is not only the CEOs of the companies that are greedy but many of the union workers who demand up to $50 hours or more to work on a line somewhere. And if they are terrible workers, putting out terrible product a company can’t fire them….its all a mess and everyone is to blame.
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Man, I wish I could get a job making $50 an hour to make dance poles. I don’t even make half that and I am exposed to HIV, Hepatitis, Radiation, Chemotherapy drugs, MRSA, and Tuberculosis on a daily basis…I’m in the wrong industry! LOL
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Lol…I don’t think the pole makers are making that. But autoworkers for instance. 🙂
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Here ya go. Kind of a partisan website but there are links to the information about how it winds up being cheaper for meat processors to send food overseas to be processed.
On a side note, I realized this morning that I forgot to mention that if you want to skip the gimmick of “buy American” and actually get the substantive effect, you are much better off “buying local” than “buying American.” If you’re really concerned about supporting labor directly, find small manufacturers who make a product you like and support that. But honestly, when it comes to poles, I have tried many brands and quality-wise, there just isn’t a small manufacturer out there right now who delivers on quality in a tension-mounted pole and performance-grade stage pole to the extent that xpole does, and I expect that’s just because there are more barriers to entry in that market than there are barriers to entry for the market of permanent mounted poles. In fact, if you want to support a local business and you can do a permanent mounted pole in your space, there are small business metal workers who would probably be more than capable of cutting and fashioning a bolt-in/permanent pole in whatever metal, height, and diameter floats your boat.
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So sorry everyone about products should be made in the usa. I didnt think ppl would write books about their opinion. The comment was unessary and had nothing to do with the topic. And I adreee with. CHemmie and web master comment. I can be ignorant I said I was sorry
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Don’t worry Quancutie I think it was a good convo as it demonstrated that we all share a solidarity that transcends national borders. That is awesome in my book.
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Reason number 1,678 of why I love studioveena!!
Discussions like this educate me on various topics that I didn’t realize I was so ignornat to.
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Quancutie… I don’t think you need to apologize at all; I think your post was the initiation of a really good debate. One of the best things about social media and group forums is discussion!! Much love to everyone!!
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let’s not forget that our Gov’t. outsourced obamacare website to Canada.
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poledancerromance thanks for that link. I used it in order to dig deeper, in which I then discovered that they actually have not started to ship out chicken. The whole seafood thing is actually a little understandable since the crab and salmon come from waters closer to China than to the US. Not that I think it should be happening, but it gives me even more incentive to take advantage of my right as an Alaskan resident and fish/hunt like all get out. Wild meats are so much better for your body and waaaay more delicious anyway!! I could never hunt (that’s my boyfriend’s job!!), but I did take the first step and fish for the first time last summer after not fishing for decades after a traumatic experience as a kid. But, I can’t wait to build a chicken coop on my property so I can have fresh eggs. Ok… I have digressed enough on this post. Thanks everyone for your input on manufacturing and such. I am sure xpole will have something amazing for all the polers who have been anxiously waiting for the 2014 pole!!
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