• branquinha

    Member
    October 5, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    This is truly a pity. I felt sorry for Rafaela too – such a strong performance and in the very end she could not do the spatchcock. I hadn’t seen Jenyne’s performance earlier but her fall broke my heart too – she was fantastic as usual. I hope organizers start doing something about cleaning the poles after these episodes – falling from the pole can be very dangerous and competitors push their bodies to the limit when performing, you definitely cannot risk a person’s safety like that.

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    October 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    OMG…I just watched this and gasped when sh fell. The jade fall looked pretty painful too…she was not even able to get set in the pose. I know if I fell that hard either time I would be hurting BAD.

  • Gsylass

    Member
    October 5, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Aww Jenyne!!! She did recover well, I couldn’t have been so graceful.

    And having watched those vids, I think I have a new hero, Rafaela was amazing!! Don’t hate me, but I liked her performance better than Felix’s!

  • Clinky

    Member
    October 5, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    I’m so glad that no one was seriously hurt. A weekend with that many slips and falls could have gone sooo much worse.

    Someone needs to produce a pole cleaning solution instead of more grip aids. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif

    The courage and strength of character just to get to that position says so much about all the competitors, but to the ones that slipped and held your heads up after – you are what makes me love pole dancing! Cheers for your hard work!

  • StephanieStorm

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 12:00 am

    All these ladies were unbelievable, so talented and I really enjoyed watching the worlds. how can you decide on a champion?
    Jenyne, bless her…..what passion and perfection, despite the fall.

    I’m going to state (because nobody on here has yet) that Oona Kivela had the qualifications and deserved to have made it into the top 13. I think her performance was perfect and complete and totally full of passion….and I’m sure she was terribly disappointed, but she’s a really good sport. But unfortunately something wasn’t right with the judging I have to say…I question and challenge the judges….
    we in the community need to make sure we have legitimacy at such events at an international level.
    thats all im sayin….

    otherwise…what an amazing group of women that championship blew my mind and filled me with inspiration.

    xox

  • Veena

    Administrator
    October 6, 2010 at 12:20 am
  • AliciaPolerina

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Such beautiful dancers! Jenyne is a trooper, I probably would have cried from pain! So glad no one got seriously hurt. All the performers I saw were fantastic and beautifull, Congrats girls!

  • Mary Ellyn

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 4:27 am

    I think it’s just as impossible to state whether judging is fair as it is for judging to not be personal and subjective. No matter what point/valuation system you have in place you are dealing with human beings who have "opinions". They are humans – not robots.

    What if some judge hates the spatchcock. Just think’s an ugly and grotesque move? You may not agree with them but if someone is judging and hates the spatchcock you certainly cannot expect them to give high points for it can you? Or maybe it will affect how that judge scores the "artistry" portion of that performance.

    This has been coming up time and again this weekend and It’s not fair to judge the judges. It’s a tough job! I’ve done it and it’s simply not the same as sitting there rooting for the people you know and love.

  • Kandipole

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 4:30 am

    Not that it matters, but does anyone know if it was two falls Jenyne had? The end and did she mean to fall out of the Jade?
    I only ask because it looks on purpose except for the speed of the fall. Looks like it hurt. Also it didnt look like she was in full position yet.
    I havent had a chance to watch all of the videos but I have heard a lot on the poles being slick. Ive always wondered what happens in competitions with all those different competitors and grip aids. I know I cant go on a pole with a different grip aid, its too slick, and I couldnt imagine trying to do some of those moves on a slick pole! How dangerous. They do need to think of a better system for that.
    I admire all the ladies that competed for their talent, grace and athletic ability!
    Great Job!

  • amcut

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 8:33 am

    I cleaned poles at the DC pole convention and was nearly the death of prana thanks to my over enthusiastic use of dry hands. I felt so awful because her life and limb were … well, nearly victims of a circumstance she had no control over.

    Jenyne’s choreography was so amazing. Had it not of been up to weird circumstance she would have knocked felix from the throne. …if she wasn’t a trained circusperson, she would have been seriously hurt! Maybe to where she wouldn’t be able to perform again…

    …. I’m rambling. Jenyne is Queen!

  • chemgoddess1

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 10:54 am

    I would say that the jade was not planned. She did not even get the move set. Typically she goes into it, pauses a few seconds and then does her drop stopping 6" from the ground. She bounced on her back so I would say no. I still can’t believe she walked away from both and taught the next day!

  • sapphiresky

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    I watched Jenyne’s vid and think my heart skipped a beat when she hit the floor from the jade… that she, alethea and other very experienced girls had so many issues with grip is quite frightening – so glad none of them were injured!

  • EvaRut

    Member
    October 6, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    I just watched Jenynes video. OMG. That must have hurt. The jade fall was definately not supposed to end on the floor like this. And the fall in the end?! OUCH! :S Im just surprised how she managed to continue and you couldnt even see that she hurt herself. She must be really good at falling correctly :O

  • JenLFG

    Member
    October 7, 2010 at 3:47 am

    seeing how several of the pros have a problem with pole conditions at a HUGE competition is really freaking me out!
    https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cry.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_shaking.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_puke_r.gif

    i really want to always be in control of cleaning any pole that i use… after seeing this i don’t trust other people to be pole cleaners https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_thumbdown.gif

  • StephanieStorm

    Member
    October 7, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Hey Mary Ellen,

    Just in response,
    I think it is quite fair to judge the judges. Sure, its not an easy job but I mean, they volunteered to do it! And they should be professional. Here is what i ask myself about judges: What are their credentials? What is the judging based on?
    If the judging is based on personal preference, well that is not a fair competition. Yes, Art is subjective, but in a competition we are also judging technicality, and if you look at the spatchcock and it is the only one you’ve seen or it is more perfect then someone else’s, you are going to score them higher based on difficulty and execution, regardless of whether you like the move or not. there are plenty of pole moves that are not necesssarily pretty. but this is not the point as a judge, you should strive not to be biased.
    So lets see the judging standards then!

    Now…all the girls were good. but there were some who were simply better, as a complete package.

    and yes i do think there was something fishy about Oona not making top 13…
    I just wanted to express that because I think if there are people in the pole community who feel that something is not right, we should speak out about it so that it doesn’t happen in the future.

    Those are my thoughts, no hard feelings at all, its all water under the bridge at this point it doesn’t really matter, but I think all this debate about judging and unfairness that has been going on might pave the way for the demand of better/structured/transparent/governing judging standards for pole competitions, which would only improve and advance the community I think…

    xox https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_salut.gif

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