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YOUTUBE. I’M NOT STEALING MUSIC. CHILL.
So. Anastasia can have a video of her dancing to Stay. Youtube doesn't freak out. I dance to stay. Youtube freaks out about copyright crap and "you have to pick a different song" like I didn't pick those specific movements for those lyrics, break beats, etc. How do you get around this? Can someone explain the rules to me, syllable by syllable? And also Facebook's policy as well? I just want to post a video where I'm dancing to a song without Youtube flipping a b**** about it. IT'S JUST MUSIC. I'm not being paid for my videos!
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Oh my god this is my biggest pet peeve!!! Mainly because when I do demos I have a song in the background which makes it "matched third party content" and none of my clients can view it on mobile.
I've recently been putting "Music:What I wouldn't do – Serena Rider
I do not own the rights to this song" etc in the description and that seems to help… now only 1/5 of my videos get flagged.I'm not really sure how or why it works (it drives me nuts) but so far that's working the best for me.. any other help would be awesome!
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Great topic. I'm keen to see the responses. xx
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@shelbsy33: Does it really help to write that you don't own the rights to the song? When I upload something that gets blocked (most times in Germany), the "matched third party content"-notification usually turns up immediately, so I just doubt that someone has had the possibilities to already inspect what's in my video and read my description.
I totally agree that it's very annoying to get this message when you've worked on and completed something and I don't know of any site where you can check which audio tracks will lead to some kind of a block and which will not.
So for now I think we'll have to do it the hard way meaning that you do a test-upload of a video with the audio track that you're possibly interested in before you actually start working to the piece. Make the vid unlisted instead of public so that nobody finds it since it's just a test. Then see if the video gets blocked in some country or on mobile devices. If yes, then I guess you'll need to consider choosing some other song if it's important to you that you don't get a block on youtube.
When doing the test, make sure that the volume of the song is high and that you include the whole track. Otherwise it can
happen that youtube does not detect it and doesn't block and then you'll risk to get a disappointing surprise once you upload the real deal. Just saying.Unfortunately it's a bit time consuming to go through this, and that's also one of the reasons to why I skip adding music to most of my stretching videos.
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urgh I hate this problem too. I normally upload straight to facebook if that happens but even FB pulled it down for 'copyright issues'. I disputed the claim on youtube by claiming it is fair use of the song (I did a lot of reading up about fair use copyright laws last night!) and my video can be viewed now. It's not the perfect solution but that's how a lot of cover singers/dance performances etc. get over the initial hurdle
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I've also heard that you have to "dispute it". Which is not something I want to do everytime I post. I think I get frustrated because I'm not sure how it's done and what the actual problem is.
Like Lina said, I've uploaded and within 3 seconds it's been flagged, though there is only a song on in the background, or just the instrumental version.
Thanks for the help though!
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Mm…I haven’t bothered trying to dispute because YouTube was scary and was like, “this isn’t a joke, we’ll flag your account of you dispute and we don’t agree with you. ” but I’ll try it now.
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CapFeb – Was youtube really scary? To me they've never said anything other than "your video has been blocked in xxxxxx". About mobile device blocks they don't say anything, they just do it anyway.
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Don't worry, there's totally a way around this! Here's a great little hack I learned from some friends in the biz. All you have to do is write a really great song, arrange all the instrumental parts yourself (if you want to be sure you don't have to share songwriting credit), hire professional musicians to rehearse it, find and pay for a recording studio, a producer, and sound engineers–if you're only recording one song you should only need them for a few days–hopefully you can do the recording itself in a day but it might take more depending on how well-rehearsed everyone is and how many overdubs you want to record (and don't forget you're still paying the musicians through all of this), then hire an engineer to master the recording. It'll cost you a few grand, but that's way less than the original musicians had to pay (in the form of recouping their expenses to their label) to create the recording you're using now. Of course, they'll never be able to pay that money back anyways since people keep publishing their music without paying for it (as opposed to stealing it, which is obviously different), so who's keeping track?
Sorry for the sarcasm, as an ex-musician I couldn't help myself. 😉 I do understand your frustration though, it is aggravating when they keep changing the licensing contracts around so we don't know what to expect. What's fine one day can get taken down the next if they renegotiate, and it's hard to navigate without a degree in intellectual property law (which I totally don't have–just an artist who's gotten burned by the devaluation of music).
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Just a question: Have you paid ASCAP and BMI so you are able to use the music legally?
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What do you mean, Trixie?
I’ve only had music pulled when I announce the artist. If I announce the song title it may be blocked on mobile. I try to stay generic in descriptions. -
After my video was flagged I thought about disputing. Is only scary if you diSpUte. But I’m afraid of the law. So that might be why
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You legally have to pay for the right to use any music in almost any situation except your home and car.
This is Very simplified…but I have to pay for the rights to play the radio in my Pilates and Aerial fitness studio while classes are being taught. They are some exceptions to this very complicated issue. -
I get that…but I thought we were talking about just playing music for personal dancing, which is why I wondered why paying fees to BMI and ASCAP was brought up, because I thought I was missing something.
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If you are not making video of it, and you are doing it in your own house..that’s fine.. It’s obsurd. I know..but that’s the notice I got. I’m trying to find a loop hole in it.. But haven’t found one yet. If you send me an email I will forward you the information I was set.
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http://fairusetube.org/guide-to-youtube-removals/3-deciding-if-video-is-fair-use
I really don't see what the problem is when you just want to share a video of you appreciating a piece of music if you have already paid for it. There clearly is no intention to profit from it and you respect the music (by choosing to dance to it, it obviously connected to you which is what the artist wants in the first place). Sadly there are people out there forever looking for loop holes to exploit copyrighted material which is probably how we ended up with such a strict law. Just my opinion
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