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just downloaded art of pole dvds 4 free, yay. xx
well, soo happy that av just saved myself some money after downloasdin the art of pole dvds for free!! gan watch them 2nyt and then start doin whats on them 2moz or wednesday. xxx
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Curious as to where you got them from. Was it a torrent? From which site? I have looked in the past and never found them. 🙂
Thanks
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Hi ye it was a torrent can’t remember which site but al have a look and send u the link. x
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Perhaps we shouldn't talk about stealing pole videos on a pole site on which Jamilla is an actual member?
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its not stealing tho its file sharing is it not?
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I think it’s the same as if you were to share a movie (all movies have that FBI warning at the beginning, don’t they)?
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When you think about whether or not torrenting is stealing, you should think about it this way:
The internet, in a way, is like a museum. For all intents and purposes, you walk in, browse around. When you like a picture you see, you right click and save the file. You aren't physically taking the file off of the page. You aren't destroying the poster's reputation by saving it. And you aren't paying for it. If they aren't asking money for it, no harm no foul.
When you torrent, it's a lot different. Torrenting would be like your friend walking into an ACTUAL museum, buying a Da Vinci painting, and putting it up in his home. This would cost him quite a bit of money. But because he's a nice guy, he puts the one of a kind painting in his super amazing "reproducer machine" and gives you a copy of it. So not only is the museum not making money off of that copy, but the artist did not create it officially and did not give the rights for someone else to make a copy. It would be like if someone cloned your daughter and started walking around and using her for their own purposes. You went through all of the trouble of raising her, why should someone who didn't pay for her (financially throwing supporting growth, or psychologically) get to adopt your child? But it's not adopting since you would still have your kid. There's just a copy of her running around doing God knows what being used for whatever purpose you could think of. And that's why there's such a big issue on torrenting.
So when you torrent Jamilla's, or Felix, or Alethea's dvds, you are stealing money from them. You might not be stealing the product, but you are stealing the money that would be going into their pockets as you are not paying for it. Not only is this rude to a fellow dancer, but it also encourages them to STOP making DVD's since they aren't turning a prophet. Pole isn't that huge of a sport in comparison to gymnastics, football, soccer, tennis, etc. We all come from various corners of the world, and I'm sure you know many dancer's here who don't have a studio within an hour's distance of them, maybe some as far as two. Some of us will never meet a pole artist due to the fact that there ARE no pole studios near by, or we don't make enough money to go to conventions and meet them. Those DVD's are there to help us. And also to help the instructors, who may have given up their real jobs just to teach people like you and me. I'm sure that when you charge $150 for a private, you're thinking that they might make bank. But think of how small of a pond they're swimming in.
In a way it's like exotic dance. Just because I work at Christie's and our only VIP option is $100 for three dances does not garentee that I will be making $100 or more that day. It's an OPTION, and us, or any other performer, athlete, human being, interacting with us is just as much their right and privledge.
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Ok, lets not get into semantics, its technically copyright violation and it's illegal and I won't have it discussed on this site.
The pole industry is small and most content is funded and coordinated by the artist and sales are relatively small volumes and therefore small profits to bring you the information and products you enjoy. When you encourage others to download videos illegally you are depriving the dancers of potential profits that are already small.
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turning a profit*** watching a discovery show on the mayan calender while typing this @_@
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U would delete the post but don’t no how to.
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Apologies to all. 🙂
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Probably a good point to post this
http://www.thepoledancingshop.com/keeping-the-pole-dance-industry-healthy
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Have to agree with the webmaster here, if the site is considered a "publisher" of content, then allowing discussion of stuff like this can get it into trouble legally. It's also bad community practise if jamelia is a member. They gotta do what they gotta do.
Now, I hate DRM, I hate the film, music and even publishing industry for enforcing many arbitry legalities of what medium is aviable to which countries and at what times (why god, WHY must i wait 3 months after the film airs in the US?), and I would be lying if i said that i didn't learn my craft with software that ….."appeared" magically. I'm not telling anyone how to live in any way…just saying I can see why talking about this stuff on this site isn't reasonable.
xxx
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My 2 cents. As someone who makes a living teaching (we rarely get PAID performing gigs) I could not imagine taking someone's content and learning from it for free.
In order for artists, teachers and the industry to grow we need to financially support pole studios, pole teachers, pole sites, pole dvds, pole events or we will not be able to sustain.
I'm not in any way money hungry and believe there is so much great content out there from diverse teachers and dancers (everyone does things differently) that without supporting the industry we will never get to see those things, learn those things and experience those things.
Over the years I have tens of thousands of dollars into my pole education from certifications, privates, workshops, memberships, dvd's, etc and it's the best money I've ever spent.
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To be blunt: you knew it was wrong when you did it. Call it "sharing" or whatever you want but there is no "get it free" button on Althea's (or any other) site. We need to support, not undermine each other in this community.
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but file-sharing isnt wrong tho?? its where ppl share files of movies, songs, pics etc!!
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