Sanchara started this discussion ·
I was wondering if anyone had a comprehesive list of what moves to learn at each level to work through in order to build better Pysical Literacy and have smooth, consitant progress. I started by mastering the moves that came on the X-Pole DVD but didn't know where to go next so I lost interest in poledance for a while...now I've dusted off my X-pole and want to start over.
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My lessons here on SV, are set up in that progressive manner. 🥂 I also include strength training and stretches that are important for pole. All lessons can be viewed as soon as you buy them... but they are set up in order according to level of difficulty. ☀️ One thing to keep in mind...everyone learns at a different pace and a lot of moves depend on your flexibility as well as strength. Some advanced dancers can do handsprings and such, but don't have the flexibility to perform say...a pole split with is not as physically demanding (strength wise).
http://www.wikipole.org has a great list of moves....unfortunately they aren't listed in order of dificulty/level. Your best bet if your learning at home is either to 1. get some dvd's (I highly recommend Jamilla's art of pole set) and 2. take some online lessons like Veena's (heard they are pretty good!) 😀
lol, I could always work through them in alphabetical order 😀
actually, maybe i am biased, but i believe the veena lessons are the absolute best. the monthly charge is reasonable, but if you can swing the annual charge in one payment, it works out even less per month... whatever you decide, good luck 🙂
Aww thanks Jayjay ....we have have a surprise coming too that should help you all out with names and yes it will be free. 🤓
oooohhhh veena, do tell !!!!! 🤸
sabian ·
I made a post here with suggestions of places to look for move pics. I come back today with additional information...and my post is gone! so here it goes again! There are numerous websites and instructors that have move pages listed for free. Vertical Dance Soirre Studios Kiwi Pole FItness Body & Pole PoleJunkies then there are the paid lessons.... Vertical Dance Online lessons SV lessons here PoleJunkies I just heard Karol from PolePraxis will be offering lessons.. then there are instructor training. Vertical Dance PoleCat PoleDivas PoleJunkies Aradia Fitness Fawnia Mondey Deitrich If you are looking for additional move catalogues...you can look at the wikipole and then see who the poler is in the picture...find out who they are, and their website will definitely have more!
You can also view the list of pole moves for FREE here. 👍 👍 🤓
sabian ·
thats great news.... where are they located...I dont seem to be allowed to do many things on this site. are the names ones known...or did you make your own? I would love to find a list that is an international standard..with the name of moves not people who did them. 🙁 Many of the names you use here are greek to me, and have never been heard of in the studio I go to. Most of the places I mentioned above, use a standard for names..and most of them are the same...will you be following a standard?
Sabien, you can do everything on this site except watch paid lessons. You are not restricted from any other activity. Also, currently there is no international standard lexicon of names for pole moves. Pole as an industry is still in its infancy, and is just starting to become unified in its approach. It is highly unlikely that you would go from one pole studio to another and have all, or even most of, the move names be the same.
sabian ·
Thank you for the response. There are hundreds of schools who use similar names and that is what I meant by following standards. The question should have been asked better...sorry. Are the names similar or the same as to what is currently known on wiki or any of the other pole move sites? Or, are you making up your own names for moves? webmaster... there are many things I cannot do on this site...I am unable to send pms to people, unable to view profiles of people in my country, I was not able to enter chat yesterday or this morning! There has only been 1 time I was able to enter chat since I have registered here. Several occasions I have not been able to post on threads. Times when postings are made and then gone when I try to edit or add to it. I keep getting the page that tells me my membership (non member) does not allow me to ___________. ....and yes I was signed in! thought you might like to know! sorry to hijack the thread.
Sabien, At StudioVeena.Com we are fortunate to be able to serve thousands of members world-wide every day, this experience and contact has given us tremendous insight into the language of the community. While there are some common names that we use, there are other names that are different from school to school. The assertion that there is a common lexicon between schools, much less hundreds of schools, is simply incorrect. The lack of this common terminology is why there are very prominent members of the community doing extensive research to develop a common language. Naming schemes are generally based on the focus of the school whether exotic, fitness or dance and further tempered by the background of the instructor/s. We have in most cases adopted terminology for our moves that is descriptive in nature and an accepted name/term in the community. As to your login difficulties I can suggest trying another browser, and updating your flash for chat problems. Generally login problems are caused by malware(spyware or viruses) in the browser you are using while chat problems can be caused by requiring an update to your flash component (found at http://www.flash.com).
flash.comAdobe Flash Player End of LifeAdobe Flash Player End of Life general informationThe fact that there is no single, accepted naming convention for pole vocabulary is one of the biggest hurdles facing pole as a "legitimate" sport. Jenyne Butterfly is working on a pole repertoire and figuring out the names that are most commonly used to describe the moves. You can check it out at http://www.polemovement.com/ In the meantime, we all have to try to name things in the way that seems most appropriate and logical to us. Veena and I use the same names for the majority of the moves we teach because we've discussed the fact that descriptive names are more appropriate and logical than other (ie: inverted thigh hold versus "the Tammy").
descriptive names are more appropriate and logical than other (ie: inverted thigh hold versus "the Tammy"). i love logical ! the tammy LOL !!!!! actually, we are on the verge of opening our studio and have just been discussing this very same thing...
I totally agree that having the move names unified would be great. But, I'm divided about the descriptive name thing. On one hand it gives you an idea of what you're supposed to be doing which is great but on the other hand there are moves that are just too hard to explain! I'm giggling as I think of a more descriptive way to explain the allegra ("The leg trapped between your arm and pole move") or the butterfly ("inverted one leg on the pole bent at 90 degree angle and the other bent behind you" move). fleur, I know this is not what you mean. I'm in a silly mood today. It is funny when you try to call a move by name and everyone else looks at you like you're speaking a foreign language.
Good point Carrie...a lot of moves will become impossible to name especially at the advanced level I think. I also think that is where we will have the most problems every getting people to agree upon common names.
Caterpillar and butterfly could be classified as descriptive names....the caterpillar can turn into the butterfly, get it?? YOu look like a caterpillar inching up the pole.....makes sense and can be remembered my most students!! I try to avoid using terms like a persons name. I don't think every single move that has been done by someone has to have a totally different name than the move it was derived from. Most of these are just variations off of other pole moves. So for example (and no I"m not saying this is what we should call it) but for example the Allegra could be called an Open Scorpio or something. It tells the student...hey, get into the Scorpio then open up the move...tah dah. I have never had a complaint about how my moves are labeled so I'm not seeing a problem........
gonna be a while before it gets unified. who should be the panel that comes up with it ? there are sooo many talented and knowlegeable polers out therem but there is no governing body yet...
angygirl ·
Veenas lessons, in my opinion are the best for me so far...for home polers. you get physiology, proper technique, personal replies from Veena when a call out for help, all the training you will need to get where you need to be. I love them! good luck! I tried a few of the other sites. no complaints really justnot as complete as Veenas.
I don't see anything wrong with high difficuty moves by people's names, other sports do it all the time. Ususally they go by the last name tho, not the first. The best example that comes to mind is the "beilman" in Figure Skating and Equestrian Vaulting (wikipole calls a simmilar move the 'skater') for the moment, my plan is to work through the wikipole picture directory alphabetically, not somthing that would neccicarily work for every new poledancer but I alredy have a lot of strength and flexabillity from Vaulting so... I should be fine. annother quick question tho, on average how many moves are in a pole dance routein?
