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  • Storypole17

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    August 22, 2012 at 8:15 am

    I have been poling for over two years and took a six weeks class of lyra a few months ago. I loved it and found it to be an easy transition from pole. Y’all are right about the hands in lyra…ouch! For some reason, i have freakish strong biceps and this really helped me in lyra. I really wish I could’ve continued the class, but I had scheduling conflicts. I really want to try silks too but I have to wait for my schedule to open up!

  • aliceBheartless

    Member
    August 22, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    I transitioned from about 2 years of pole into dance Trapeze and Tissu about three years ago. Poling definitely helped that transition for me, because prior to poling, I could barely do pullups. The one thing that pole does give a person, that typical dance training does not, is the upper body strength. Currently, I assist in teaching aerial, and the biggest thing I see in beginners, especially on Tissu, is that the strength isn't there, and its completely normal. Its actually what most of the frustration is with that apparatus; building the strength to be able to execute the moves. Because no matter how well you understand it, the bottom line in aerial is strength and control. The next biggest issue I see, primarily with Trapeze, is that it HURTS. For me, Trapeze has totally eclipsed the pain I remember with Pole. That said, it's my favorite apparatus. 

    I think the transition from pole to aerial is a good one. They complement each other very much so. However, each apparatus has their own idiosyncracies, and while a lot of the moves look very similar, like gummypia says, getting there is rarely the same from apparatus to apparatus. However, the more vertical apparatus (pole, rope, tissu, etc) all have many similarities with eachother, as do trapeze, ring, hammock, etc.  For me, learning new styles of movement, be they dance or aerial, will likely complement all the other things that I do, because its just adding another element of complexity to my movement quality and teaching me a new way to use my strength. Because getting my straddle up on Tissu will help make my straddle up on Trapeze and Pole that much better, even though they aren't all the exact same thing, they just look like it.

  • jeng

    Member
    August 26, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    I was poling for 3 years before I started taking silks.  I found that I was able to progress much quicker than all the other girls because I already had the upper body and ab strength.  Some of the the moves are similar and alot of the time I think about how could I take a pole trick and do it on silks.

    I still find pole much more difficult than silks.  Once you have the upper body and core strength on the silks its pretty easy to learn new tricks once you have the fundamentals down.  It takes me alot longer to learn a new pole trick than it does on silks.

    Both are painful in different ways but goes away with time.

    I still prefer the pole.

  • OzarkSiren

    Member
    August 26, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    I am coming to Pole from Silks. I use a single point aerial sling at home. I am brand new at Pole and not sure what all I can do yet. I am going to take the Lessons. I love love my Silks. The upper body strength is very important. That is what I had to work on when I started Silks. I have killer leg strength and that did help but you really need that upper body or you cannot climb. You will love Silks !!! Let us know how you do.

     

  • PippiParnasse

    Member
    August 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I pretty much started my teaching career by teaching pole to silks people, and have since transitioned to introducing silks to polers. I have a blog post about this somewhere (away rom computer now), but basically pole and silks are sister apparatuses. The similarities are just thorough enough to make the differences jarring. Much more biceps & hands in silks (but less delts & pecs), more time in the air, and the disorientation of having the apparatus MOVE on you…

  • OzarkSiren

    Member
    August 30, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    Would love to see your Blog.  I love Silks and now love Pole. I love both. I hoop too. I am learning Silks from a manual since there are no studios or teachers around here.

  • PippiParnasse

    Member
    September 1, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Found the blog! It’s a lot simpler writing than much of my stuff. I could probably add some stuff now, like what I was saying above about different muscles worked… http://acrobaticpole.blogspot.com/2011/09/pole-and-silks-sister-arts.html

  • byrdgrrl

    Member
    September 2, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    @Pippi

    I hear what you are saying about having silks move on you.  I usually train outside, and some days I have to give it up because it is too windy.  I spend all my time chasing my tails, instead of practicing.  0_o

  • PippiParnasse

    Member
    September 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    @byrdgrrl Not even getting to that point, polers tend to be freaked out when they get on the silks and start swinging around like tarzan. ESPECIALLY if their inverts from the ground aren't controlled!!!

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