exactly. just what veena said. the poles at stores like "Spencers" that sell for like $80, $100 bucks (including the carmen electra pole) are more for transition moves- like basically walking around. You can’t do anything on it. i believe that S-Factor is now selling platinum stages poles but i’d still go for an X-Pole since i had such a bad experience with a ps one. i don’t know much about lil’mynx poles to be honest- ive heard great reviews and then bad ones too. even if you’re just gonna dance around it and learn a few spins, get a safe pole and spend a little extra. id rather see you flush $100 down the toilet than buy a pole you can’t even use.