thanks i haven’t used a spotter or even a mat (except with first attempt bow & arrow .. used big pillow) for anything really wish there were classes in my area i think i have done well considering am self-taught, but there are some moves (handspring & few others) i feel i will not get ( or atleast not for a looong time) without an instructor am going upstairs in a little bit (i have turned lemons into lemonade https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_sunny.gif used to be the verrrry cold attic kept me from poling as often as i wanted now i let the heat run for an hr & a half as soon as i even think i might want to go pole and let me tell you, with the cost of runnin heat i am not going to let myself back out i go and do something even if its just floorwork and some simple spins i know once that heater has been running i am def using the pole room has helped me get alot more consistent lately) am not attempting anything major as am going clubbing sat. (FinallY) the club has poles on the bar so am going to play haven’t been out dancing in months but am going to tape whatever i do to add to vid to be posted beginning of nxt mo. am going to try the crossed ankle & knee i will feel it out to see what feels more secure thnx!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif