Kyrsten
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I work at Fantasy Fitness in Detroit! We actually just held our first advanced class today. If you have been poling that long it may not be advanced enough for you though. We also have "Pole Play" on Sundays — basically an open pole practice session for all levels. Feel free to message me if you want more info.
The only other studio in the area I have visited is Pole Addiction, but I know Vixen and PoleFIT Revolution are also in the area if you want to search around. I am not sure what they offer in regards to advanced level classes but Charley works at Vixen if you wanted to get in touch with her as well!
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https://www.studioveena.com/forums/view/2524
I wonder how this was done? Perhaps you could message her?
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I've read so many great things about Tite Grip, but I bought some and ended up giving it to my studio because it makes my grip WORSE. Like, have to deathgrip the pole or I'll slide right off. It's weird.
I really like LG because of it's staying power… I use it in combination with Dry Hands. DH is more effective for me but LG lasts longer. I also got mine at the Vitamin Shoppe… it's HUUUUGE botle for 20 bucks, I can't see myself running out any time soon lol.
Anyway I put a bit of LG, let it dry, then add a dab of Dry Hands if needed. Works great for me. I'm not very sweaty but I have really dry skin so I like a little bit of tackiness with my grips to prevent sliding.
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Have you tried freestyling to them and seeing what you connect with most? Sometimes I love a song in theory then when I go to dance to it, it's just not all there lol. I'm struggling to choose a song for a competition now too… I have two in mind… I like one better but I'm leaning toward the other because I think it meshes better with my natural movement, which is another thing to consider…
Some people perform beautifully to slow/sultry songs, but I think my dance style doesn't lend itself to that most of the time so while I enjoy dancing to them, I probably wouldn't pick one for a performance. I find my personal style is very high stamina, high energy, with quick movement, so I tend to pick more percussive/dramatic music or something with a faster beat because it plays to my strengths better. And that doesn't mean I'm limited to one genre by any means!
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Yes, I imagined the reason it's harder is because you don't have the resistance of the floor… I will start working on oversplits, but is there a way to condition for it without a massive oversplit? Lol. Resistance stretching or strengthening certain muscles… etc?
Also when training for oversplits should you be putting something under the forward foot, or the backward one? Or alternate both?
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I pulled BOTH of mine… I I had the same thing happen, except I was doin a heel stretch both times. Heard something horrible…
I've read hamstrings are hard to heal because of lack of blood flow to the area or something? I pulled one about 3-4 months ago and I have my range of motion back but it still aches from time to time… pulled the other a couple weeks ago and I still can't straighten that leg completely without pain. I've heard of these injuries taking forever to heal though, I need to get into a doctor or massage therapist… it sucks, one my right it's a literal pain in my ass and on the left it hurts to fully extend the leg or do a straddle.
I do still stretch but I try to take it easy on the hamstrings and not do anything intense with them…
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I love Mika!!! Can anyone recommend a pair of their shorts that are lowest rise? I have the mikaelas but I usually fold them down (I have like a midget torso lol). They're having a sale right now too!! Other than the that they are the best pole shorts I have.
I also really like the cheap yoga shorts from Rue 21. They're Victoria's Secret Pink-ish, quality isn't great, but you can get them really cheap. They're shorter and lower rise than Pink yoga shorts so I like them better, and think they're more flattering.
I buy shorts from sex/novelty shops sometimes with the entertainer wear, but you have to be reeeally careful with those. I have a couple pair that are great, but a lot of them have horrible crotch-revealing problems lol.
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I have very dry skin and I actually find stainless to be the best for me personally… have you ever tried it? I have never used TG. I'm not really a brass fan, it's too grabby and it seems to "sweat" almost?? I'm not really answering your question here lol but as a dry skinned person I just thought I'd throw it out there lol.
Also corn husker's lotion is AMAZING for grip if you have very dry skin!! It's like magic, seriously.
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So many of us here!! I love it lol
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I am in for regional elite as well! Im really excited for the whole event!
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Also I don't think you could really basic invert from it either way because of the split grip… unless maybe you took the bottom hand off once you've hooked the foot, reach up top, and push your hips up? I dunno, but that would probably also be harder than the basic invert. There's always inverting from a handstand on the floor..
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I think in a thigh rest you are holding with the bottom thigh and the other leg is extended off the pole, and your body tilted at an angle away from the pole. In a cradle you have both thighs on the pole and your body is tucked around it horizontally.
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Are you referring to this?
http://poledancedictionary.com/moves/286/barbed-wire-to-butterfly/
I call it a cradle to butterfly or a pop up butterfly… It is more difficult than the basic invert because youre using a split grip and because it’s basically an aerial invert, plus it takes a lot of upper body strength to be able to push out.
That is the only invert I know from the cradle/apprentice.
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I'm not a big fan of gloves in the first place but I do have a pair. I don't really use them unless I'm doing pull-ups or something. I have the tack ones.
A word of warning on the sizing though… They do run really small like scarlett said!! I'm a ring size 4 so I figured I would need a small. They're extremely uncomfortable. I have long skinny hands and they are definitely NOT made for hands like that…. The glove is way, way too short for my hand, and if I size up they're much too loose to get a good grip without my hands sliding.
I've also seen a lot of pairs get entirely destroyed by ripping/shredding… pretty much every girl in my studio has had theirs shred, idk if it's because of our poles (VERY grabby powder) or because of the gloves themselves.
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Been there… twice 🙁 Once learning to invert, once learning the jade split. It really sucked but thankfully it didn't take too long to heal–maybe 3-4 weeks, but mine weren't that severe so I guess it depends. It seems to be a common pole injury. I was still able to do non-inverted pole work (climbing and basic spins) but nothing inverted or that touched/stretched the injured side.
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Ooo that'll teach me to read LOL. I've thought about that but I'm almost sure I'd manage to hurt myself on it somehow… hahaha. Also, whatever lubrication they used in manufacturing near the bottom is really resistant… still hasn't worn off lol. It's hard to grip down there. I can actually grip on the slipcover if i'm careful, depending on what i'm doing.
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My pole is so short that it isn’t even worth it. I’d much rather have the space at the top usable lol
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Whaaat? I will cry LOL that would be amazing!! I could take my pole out of my basement and actually be able to do stuff…
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Heeeeck no! The oona spin is probably the craziest spin I can do lol… I really like how she went into a true grip handspring from a spin though, I would love to try that because I love true grip, but I think I'd have to handspring on my bad side…
That rockstar to butterfly looks AWESOME… need to try that one too! I wonder if I could do it… my rockstar kind of sucks lol
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Jelli — I have a recent vid of me doing the oona spin on static! I'm also 5'2.5" and it isn't a problem. Any time you change your body direction in a spin you get added momentum and if you watch the oona, you're pretty much switching your body around the entire time. It's totally my favorite spin ever right now lol just because it's so fast and spinny and dynamic.
I tried one I really liked today — open V spin (with the baseball grip, not bracket) into what we call an inside leg hook (inside leg hooked, outside leg out straight) to a flirty fireman (inside leg out straight, outside leg hooked).
I looked up Nadia Zarif and holy crap… she does some freaking AMAZING static spin combos:
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For me, when I say right, I mean to invert on the right side of the pole. Right hand high, pole to my left.
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I love love looooove my PS 45mm stainless steel. It's the perfect amount of grip. I stick like glue when I'm in poses but I'm still able to spin, drop, and slide without pain or skin ripping. My only beef with the PS pole is that the slip cover gets in the way, but that's really only because my pole is so short. I'd have the same issues with an X-Pole. I like the pin for locking out the pole too, and the one-pieces are really nice. I like the SSA stage pole a lot too.
We have a 45mm chrome X-Pole at my studio and a bunch of 47mm powder-coat poles, and I don't really like either. The size on both is ok, but I need a lot of grip aid to work with chrome, and the powder coat tends to rip and burn my skin.
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It is extremely helpful to do it on both sides… for one, sometimes in order to execute a combination you will have to perform a trick on your bad side, and two, it keeps both sides strong and keeps you evened out, which as chemgoddess said, will help prevent injury.
Most people do have a strong side though! I can invert on both sides, but inverting on my right still feels really, really weird even though I've been inverting for forever. It is definitely normal to prefer/be stronger on one side. And I find it varies from trick to trick — some of my handsprings are stronger on my left while others are better on my right, for instance. But always try both sides.
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It is extremely helpful to do it on both sides… for one, sometimes in order to execute a combination you will have to perform a trick on your bad side, and two, it keeps both sides strong and keeps you evened out, which as chemgoddess said, will help prevent injury.
Most people do have a strong side though! I can invert on both sides, but inverting on my right still feels really, really weird even though I've been inverting for forever. It is definitely normal to prefer/be stronger on one side. And I find it varies from trick to trick — some of my handsprings are stronger on my left while others are better on my right, for instance. But always try both sides.
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I could see how you'd get wrist burn from that! And yes, finish and the temperature/humidity does make a difference. I stick like glue to our powder poles on warm days. I had a girl in one of my classes with bleeding thighs from a cross knee release.
But generally, beyond the effects of pole finish and weather, a lot of the pole burn for your common points of contact will go away over time. Some moves never hurt, some seem to never NOT hurt, and some just take a few weeks/months to get accustomed to. Everyone's a little different.
