PoleGrrrrl
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While I won’t go as far as to try and figure out what the cause could be, I’ve found that if I’ve got twinging/twitching muscles/ligaments/tissue etc while I’m stretching, its helps if I warm them up by the contract/resistant stretching that was talked about here a while ago.
So, as FreeTheSun suggested, rather than do the stretch sitting down, instead lie on your back, put your legs in straddle above you, and instead of just pulling your legs down towards the floor as the normal stretch, try resisting that movement by contracting all the muscles along your inner legs first. If you repeat this 7-8 times you’ll find your muscles will feel a lot looser and more warmed up, in prep for pushing your flexibility a bit more.
I think this is a mashup of that guy’s stretching theory (y’know, whatshisname https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif ) and that other stretching theory (the acronym of which also eludes me in my afternoon head-fog)
*Hopefully* this will put a bit less pressure on the area of your knee that you’re feeling the injury in.
In the meantime I would recommend seeing at least a physio to make sure you’re not exacerbating a potentially bad injury
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I’ve found actually learning the moves in reverse (or as a dismount) really helps understanding your body position and the confidence to know what way to move your arms/hips/legs when you are practicing it as a mount. I think its also a lot safer this way https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_razz.gif
So, for example, if you want to do a cartwheel into a split grip ayesha, just do a normal invert into the hold first, and then practice dismounting via the cartwheel. If you can’t do the split grip, well, tbh, you probably shouldn’t be attempting the mounts into them in the first place. Also try slowing the dismounts as much as possible, this will help improve your strength in anticipation.
As to the handstands, as I’ve mentioned before, sticking the butt out first really helps, but tbh if its a fear thing you just need to practice it loads to get over that (bit of a catch 22 eh?)
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You may be a pole dancer if…
you idley scratch an itch on your inner thigh and realise you can barely feel it from all that man-skin.
You don’t even blink anymore going into ‘adult’ stores cos you’re on the lookout for a new costume/shoes.
You start thinking about sexy moves while walking though a shopping mall and realise people are giving you second glances because you’re OOZING hotness https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_tongue.gif
You’ve finally realised why God gave you curves.
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Hey I used to get this all the time with thai boxing (and still do, for that matter)
I’m sure someone else can explain it better than me, but essentially what’s happend is a calcium deposit has formed where you have had a lot of bruising (or, in the case of thai boxing, got hit https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif ), and generally forms because the excess blood hasn’t totally gone away.
This is very common and totally harmless, if you want to get rid of it, you just need to massage the lump/knot area (a lot), it will take a while but will eventually go away. I’ve got loads up and down both my shins from 6 years of kicking pads and sparring!
If you want to stop this from happening again (or as much), just remember bad bruising doesn’t always just magically disappear, if you do have quite a bad one (s), rub it out gently in the shower/bath/steamroon to ensure all of the excess blood under the skin is dispersed (ew right!)
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Yes she is fab, I’m pretty sure she won Miss Pole Dance UK (or similar) the year before last? But don’t feel too bad about not being as flexible as her, if memory serves me correct she was in a (possibly eastern european?) circus as an acrobat/performer for quite some time before taking up pole dancing.
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yep any flippy-over-thing where your legs will go over your shoulders (which would include the BM) should be on/over the shoulder against the pole.
personally I think if you’re using the double cupped grip, its best to have the opposite hand on the top, I think it just works better for the push/pull aspect of it, like you’re pushing against your shoulder and pulling with opposite hand (sort of).
I have found that the felix-style grip (i assume this is the princess?) is much more secure once you’re actually in the upside down v position, so you can do more things while you’re up there https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif .
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It depends on the grip you’re using. If you’re using the double cupped grip, then the opposite arm/hand to the shoulder the pole is resting on is on top. *however* if you’re using a different grip to this, its not necessarily the case.
The other grip I’ve been working on is the bobbi/felix grip, which is where the hand of the resting shoulder (which in my case is on the right) comes around the front of the pole and grips from the left side (its kind of twisted), and then the left hand cups just underneath it. In this case then the same hand as the shoulder is resting on top.
I’m sure there’s a gajillion other grip alternates that will also vary.
Each to their own really, do whatever feels comfortable for you (and the brass monkey isn’t easy to get into btw from SM so its not necessarily to do with your grip!) Also remember with the SM roll to flip your feet towards the resting shoulder.
Hope this helps https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_compress.gif
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I don’t know if its too late for an additional suggestion, but one of my first instructors gave me a big help with this move by saying ‘ALWAYS LEAD WITH YOUR BUTT’ https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
Its fairly safe to say a person’s butt is probably wider than their foot https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif, so its a lot less likely to miss or slip off the pole. If, when you kick up, you need to push your butt towards the pole, then, as it starts to make contact/lean against the pole, your foot/feet can grab on (obviously your feet will be following your butt up in the normal handstand motion).
This is a great way to learn the move, and get the confidence to do the handstand in the first place. Once you’re comfortable with that, all you need to do is lead less with the rear end and more with the feet https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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All the above comments completely agree with, its all in the tilt https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
Also, what helped when I first got it is to hold tight (sorta pull almost) the crossed knee leg by the opposite hand (i.e, if you’re right leg is bent, hold the ankle with your left hand). I felt it gave me a lot more security knowing at least it couldn’t slip off once I lay back! Once you get confident at it you’ll be able to do it without holding on.
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I most love my wicked sense of humour https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
Physically I love my shoulders, butt, and consequently the overall curves of my body. I have been told my face is alright too, some big ol’ eyes and an infectious smile https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
**must…not….feel…need…to…say…negative….comment…..arrggh its so hard!**
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I remember an interview that Felix did last year in the UK, and how she felt about pole dancing and stigmas etc (or something like that). She said that her aim was to make people realise that just like any other form of dance, the interpretation of movement by polers can be just as varied, and one form (etc fitness) isn’t better or worse than any other (ie erotic), but instead all types should be celebrated as unique and beautiful.
I totally agree with her, personally my style is more to the balletic/lyrical type, and while I appreciate the ‘fitness’ aspect of it you’ll NEVER see me wearing sneakers in a performance (if you’re not going to wear heels, a lovely pointed toe looks much better https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif ). @StellarMotion I totally agree that this whole extreme fitness vs sexy is totally unnecessary, a silly polarisation that limits the style you can learn depending on the studio owner’s take on it.
I think sexiness in pole dancing come from that mesmerising ‘OMFG-I-can’t-look-away-they’re-amazing’ ability where the dance just EXUDES confidence, every movement to the smallest hair toss is performed 110%, whether she’s wearing an itty bitty bikini or shorts and a tank top.
I’m taking some lessons at Bobbi’s in Perth at the moment, where you have to wear pleaser-type heels when training. I have to say what they excel at is not just teaching a move/trick, but all the idiosyncrasies of the initial invert, the small movements to position into the trick, and right to the type of dismount, which in my opinion are just as important as getting the trick itself. Consequently the instructors and students are just amazing, every movement is just soooo sensual, I’m trying hard to copy but right now I’m just concentrating on not falling over in the shoes https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_redface.gif )
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@Aubbal Ive had a look around a few adult shops in Dublin (ugh they’re awful here I hate going in them!), they have some shoes but they’re poor quality and SEVERELY overpriced (tho isn’t everything here!), like at least 3-4 times what you’d get them in London or America for. Honestly you’re better off ordering them online, even with the postage costs they’re still better value.
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My weight from poling hasn’t changed a singe iota but I have got a lot leaner all over – Im currently home (Perth Australia) for the holidays and all my old clothes that didn’t fit properly a couple of years ago are now super loose https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
In fact I’ve actually lost a couple of kilos since I’ve been here (that’s what, like 5 pounds?) because I’m losing muscle like nobodys business due to the lack of exercising and poling since I left (havent even been able to touch a pole for like 3 weeks arrrgh).
I’ve spoken to people about weight and body before and I think there’s a point at which your body says ‘ok, I’m happy here, I’m not going to move’, so if someone’s doing the right thing exercise and diet wise, and not losing weight, its important to listen to their body and not try and force it to be something it doesn’t want to. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
In terms of calories, well I would burn abut 350 in 20 min on the treadmill, so an hour of decent poling I reckon would be at least 450+. But I guess it depends on what you do…
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hey yay I spoke to my instructor at class last night and she really wants to enter our studio in pole unity next year as we’ve never been in it before. Poletickles mentioned there was an Irish one in march first so we’ll probably do that one first and then hopefully head over to london in May is it?
Also I do believe Deetron mentioned she might also get her girls together for a performance…
