Runemist34
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Hello!
Okay, first of all: Congrats about the new job! Very exciting!!On the topic of poles and ceilings: I rent. I have never, ever, owned my own house. It may be a loooong time till I do. I’ve had my own Lil’ Mynx pole for about 6ish years now- my first one was Stainless steel, my second one an SV pole, as in powder coated. They both have bolts that go into the ceiling, with a little bracket type thing that the pole hangs on to, and the pole itself presses into the floor and ceiling in order to have stability.
I’ve had the drywall fall apart on me, and I’ve also had some issues with metal joists or un-find-able joists, but never have I had an issue once I took the pole down. Put some spackle in there (you know, the white goop that you use to fill holes in your walls?) and be done with it. People generally can’t tell it was more than a plant hook. No one, ever, has complained to me about it.
And yes, you really, seriously, HAVE to find a ceiling beam. If you just stick your pole in the middle of the room without a ceiling beam, it will likely crunch right through, or just fall over. You want neither of these options. The ceiling beam (or Joist) is what gives your pole an anchor, through the drywall. Drywall is not very sturdy, and as many people who have punched through it will attest, probably won’t hold up a person.
For an X-pole, I believe the trick for tightening is that you don’t want the pole to be too tight for spinning purposes (they can squeak or move irregularly if overtightened), and also you don’t want to do any kind of damage to your ceiling. I’ve heard a lot of awesome things about X-poles being practically untraceable.
A simple studfinder will locate the joist for you 🙂 Or, if it doesn’t work (sometimes the creation of a house is a little… less than what regulation states? Or perhaps quite old, and you’re dealing with a wood ceiling), you can also look up into a lighting fixture, and check to see where the beams are. They are usually about 16 inches apart, as far as I know. -
I think the main issue is that they’re so used to training males. Men tend to react differently than women to training- where a man will develop muscle structure and upper body strength very quickly, women tend to hold on to their fatty goodness, and develop lower body strength. They’re just sending these women through “regular” bootcamp (I’m assuming, anyways) and are now, apparently, surprised that the women being trained can’t to pull ups.
I’d say… they have to look at it differently. Not necessarily pole dancing (though that would be an effective way of achieving what they want!), but just something different. Women have to be trained differently, they have different skills and different ways of moving. -
Haaaa…bachelorette party >_>
Okay, that’s not completely true. I was interested in Pole dancing before that, but… never really had the opportunity or the encouragement to try it! I had mentioned it in passing to a couple of friends, who, I suppose, took the idea and brought it up again for another friend’s bachelorette. There were only about four of us, but it was a blast, we all loved it… and we all decided to take lessons.
I have never been athletic as a kid, or even through my teenaged years, so getting into something like pole dancing would have struck me as incredibly strange… except I didn’t think of it as “fitness” at the time. I knew nothing about the Jade Split, the Handspring mount… heck, I knew nothing of inversions in any way when I started! While doing lessons, I took a vague interest in doing a little more research, and we went to a pole dancing competition at a local strip club…
I saw someone walk on the ceiling. I was blown away.
After that came internet research, more lessons, and I learned of the Jade Split. It became the move I wanted the most- to me, it defined the whole idea of “impossible,” and I wanted it.
Since then, local lessons died and I got my own pole, signed up with SV, and here I am. I’ve never been athletic… but Pole dancing has changed that. It changed my life in a way that I’ll always be thankful for! 🙂 -
Chair dance!
Find a good, sturdy chair, and try stuff with that! I’m sure you could find loads of good videos on Youtube. I’ve been wanting to give it a shot, too 😉 -
PDR: I know your pain! I’m still fighting with this stupid head cold. So frustrating! I hope you feel better soon 🙂
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I’ve never heard of Eva Bembo before, but… I think I may have a new favourite O.O
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I know all about that move. That was my semi-nemesis move when I first started, and has turned into one of my go-to moves that I LOVE. I had to learn the mechanics of it before I could actually do it.
So, this spin: Hooking your inside leg is your anchor, it keeps you at the right distance from the pole, and provides some support (though, on static, I would advice against gripping too hard, because that hurts if you’re wearing shorts!). Your arms are also going to be providing support by way of lift… but it’s usually the position of the hips and spine that get people.
The hips have to be FORWARD. I know how freaky that is. But, if you create a straight line all the way from your shoulder, down your side, through your hip, to your knee… you’ll have better grip with your leg. You will no longer feel like you are going to fall off. Crunching up and leaving your hips behind the pole will make that feeling far stronger.
As Dustbunny said, around here we tend to teach spins a little later, because you can really wrench your joints (particularly shoulders) when doing them. I learned this spin a mere four weeks into starting pole… probably not a good idea, considering I was fairly unfit and was not working on any kind of strength! So, please be careful. Remember to engage your lats, protect your shoulders with them. It’ll save you a world of issue later.This spin does have it’s variations, like keeping your legs together once you’ve pushed off, and also doing it one-handed, but I prefer the legs-open version.
Fireman spin is awesome, and you’ll use it for the entirety of pole dancing! I also find that I use a lot of my “beginner” moves all the time, just… sort of to cool off from bigger tricks, or even as a warm up before I actually start working on said tricks. Pirouettes, half spins, slides, floorwork, footwork (such as the cross-step that Veena has on here), holds, and all of that stuff is stuff you’ll use forever. It is what makes it a dance, rather than a series of tricks!
You’ll get this one. This spin is almost like a leap of faith… but eventually, it becomes a kind of falling into awesomeness. If that makes sense 😉
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I love the idea! I’m going to work on some plans for this month, and see what it is I’m really going to work on… but I’m thinking my challenge this month is to get that basic invert under control!
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Saphyre, that really was an excellent response. You sounded very poised and in command 😉 It’s unfortunate for this person that he’s placing such old stereotypes on other people! Sounds like he’s asking you if you have “permission” from your husband! And to that, I say: LOL
You are super awesome at pole, and super sexy, and I totally agree with your friend on FB- he should shut up and sit down! -
I’ve never seen anything that looks like that… but it looks AWESOME!
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It’s not quite the full “pull up,” but that certainly helps. The major part that I found is that you really have to swing the leading leg around, hard, in order to get your momentum! I find that starting when not-quite facing the pole also helps.
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Hey there!
1) Cleaning the pole, I’ve used both windex (or whatever window cleaner was generally around), and water. I’ve heard of using rubbing alcohol, vinegar, and the list goes on. I think it depends a lot on the finish of your pole!
2) Hands getting sweaty is pretty common. My own hands get sweaty, but not enough for me to justify dishing out for a grip aid that I’m going to feel guilty using anyways- I just wipe my hands on a damp cloth. Eventually, when you and the pole are both warm and getting right into that grove, you will find that it all evens out 🙂 I don’t like the idea of having to depend on a grip aid to do my dancing, personally.
3) Again, it depends on the finish of your pole, but I’ve heard of it. Some people are pretty worried about hygiene.
4) I would suggest working on the Fireman spin, but only AFTER you’ve worked on a few other things. You’ll probably want to start getting into your strength training, and working out the kinds of ways to move around the pole. Get used to walking, bodywaves, sitting with your back against the pole, and getting more used to just dancing. Spins aren’t all they’re cracked up to be (I would know, I’ve been doing spins for 5 years!). You can also get used to pole sits, and even planks while in the beginner stage.
5) Strength training is a fantastic thing! I have stupid knees, and I work them every time I dance or work out. Sometimes even more than that. Unhappy wrists are something you need to watch for- especially if you use the computer or do any writing. Have you seen a doctor about it? Perhaps they could give you an idea of the things you could do to strengthen!
6) Unfortunately dance outfits are not made to fit my kind of body… but I know that there are a THOUSAND threads on here talking about sexy, fun clothes to wear! Some of the places people bring up often are Mika Dance wear, Bad Kitty, and even clothes from some of our Pole dance “stars” like Dirdy Birdy!Happy dancing!
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HappyRabbit, I know exactly how you feel. I am hoping for those things, too!
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I, personally, am not a great example, as I tend to aspire toward more structured workouts, but rarely really manage it. However, I’m working on it!
What I’ve heard, though, is that a lot of people (like SmilingFox!) write things down, and keep a pole journal. It gives them direction on the things they need to work on and what they feel good about. Things to focus on.
I’ve also read a lot about having particular days per week for certain things- like, one day each week or even every couple of days where you JUST work on flow. Pick about five moves, from easy to “I’ve just started feeling comfortable doing this,” and dance them out. Work on getting into and out of them in attractive ways, work on doing them with different ideas about what you want for them, and transitioning from each move into the other moves you’ve picked. It can be quite a challenge!
Otherwise, I think it’s a big part of how you feel- it depends on things like what you want out of your workout (or dancing), your end goals, the ways you want to use Pole dancing (fitness, feel sexy, etc.), as well as the things that you, alone, struggle with. I struggle with inverted moves, so I know I need to work on them almost every time, so that I can get past my fears and make progress.
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Increase my flexibility and strength- I’d like to master some of my lower-level moves, and really work on my sexy dancing 🙂