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Good to know! Thank you so much, ladies, this really helps. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_sunny.gif
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now if I could get the strength and conditioning too even without weight loss I could live with that.
Haha, my husband and I have a little agreement with that…I don’t get thinner, and I’m allowed to do whatever I want! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Honestly, though, he just wants me to be happy, and if I get thinner, he’ll live. He’s told me so. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_bounce.gif
Looking at your pictures, Jen, you look like me, if I was able to do most of those poses! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif At least in body-type. And I think you look good! Maybe that’s what we should do…find all the girls that are shaped the same, and then we can all talk about what we like about each other! Even the thinner girls who have butt envy. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
Seriously, though, booty shaking is haaard! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif -
Wow, Red, that was super, duper helpful! Can I hump your leg? Woops! Did I say that? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_safesex.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cat.gif
Thank you for the pictures and the explanations, it was very enlightening! I think I’ll be saving the whole post for future reference! I’ve, personally, seen mostly the cup grip when I watch others do it, but I could also see the Veena, or Flip grip being used effectively. I’ll try them from the floor and see if any of them work for me! It’ll be another strength thing for me to practice, along with my pull-ups! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif -
…but in general guys are just happy to actually get to see ANY junk
AH, so true! My husband tells me pretty often that he’s happy with what I’ve got https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif
I agree entirely with what you girls have to say, and I sure did like those links!
I think I agree, though, that sometimes we’re surprised by what we see in the mirror, or in a video, because we don’t really get the full effect. I was surprised, in my first video, by how large my hips actually were! I mean, I knew they were big, and I’ve had them measured (for my wedding dress) and I know how big around they are, and that I gotta hunt for jeans most of the time, but I suppose I never really got the "full effect" till I saw me shakin’ my stuff for the camera.
Also, it was…perhaps a bit of a surprise? I mean, I was dancing in shorts this time (rather high shorts, because I wanted to attempt the climbing and sitting again), but I DID look in the mirror for a while with those shorts on, and I didn’t think it looked that bad! But then, on the camera, I did a pose, and the ripple went aaaalll the way up my thigh and ended in my ass. I was like "Holy jiggle, batman!" https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif
But then, as said here and will probably be said in so many other places, it’s more the perception of what is sexy, and changing that so that we are accepting. Any woman can be sexy, I know that, and I think we all know that. Strangely, I tend to be an exception to most of my own good rules, and I’ve been trying to change that.
I really liked what Amcut said, though. We are not an ass, an arm, or a set of boobs, we’re a whole, complete sum of all the parts, one person, and that person is sexy. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_salut.gifI also liked the idea of playing up the good points, so no one noticed the bad ones https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif Getting out the camera and the mirror so I can see what looks good, what kinds of things flatter the way I am built, so I can show that off a little more. Not getting rid of the less flattering, but not making it the main focus.
…er, if this is really long and sort of confusing, I’m sorry, I was sick all day yesterday, and I think I’m having an odd reaction to the drugs I took to help me sleep https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
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Alright, so one hand is in the front, which is extended, thumb going around the pole and fingers together, and the other arm is bent, and hand is behind the pole. Did I get that right? That’s the "Veena grip?" This is the one I should try? Depending, of course, on how comfortable I am with it. I might be comfortable with another, we don’t know https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
So, that’s the second way I’ve seen it done, technically. The first is the one with both hands behind, one mostly extended up and one slightly closer to the head, and this one. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif -
I love the two that are waist high! They would be great for burlesque. Great find https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cat.gif
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Wow, she’s strong and sexy! Certainly has a great style, too. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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…And this is why I love this forum. You realize, ladies, that this could have totally exploded in some kind of poop-fligning estrogen-fest, and I probably would have been like "Oh yeah, that’s women for you." I’ve worked with, and spoken to, a lot of women who WOULD start freaking out, just because you disagreed! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rambo.gif
And yet, you guys simply talked it out! It was heartwarming, and makes me wonder if it’s just the town I live in! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
Anyways, I’m not necessarily going to be full-on shouldermounting yet! I know it’s one of the hardest inversions to do, and I know I don’t have the strength for it…but as previously suggested, I might try it from the floor, just to see about the core strength and arm strength required, and also perhaps to exercise those muscles, so that one day I can SM gracefully.
I think I understand Veena’s reasoning behind keeping the hands farther apart, because this can give a person more leverage, and requires less strength (perhaps only slightly), but PDR, could you describe yours for me? Are you suggesting keeping the thumbs and hands together, and cupping the pole behind my head? Or something else?
Sorry, I’m a little sick, and get kind of confused https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif -
I’ve found that a lot of people like having the mirror, so they can kind of spot-check their moves, and and correct them (if needed) then and there. Honestly, my video is the first time I’ve seen myself dance! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thank you! Generally, I wait till all the guys are out of the house (which is hard, ’cause there’s three of them!) although one of them is pretty good about it, and not particularly interested in watching. So, I suppose I kind of developed my style when I was alone!
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I’ll agree with Amcut on the logo…it just looks like they don’t know how to spell, not that they’re emphasizing the crazy, dirty, sexy side of dance, like I assume they’re trying to do. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
However, I’d say it looks like they have some good instructors, and some alright classes. Maybe it would be fun to learn old moves from a new studio, eh? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_salut.gif -
I know what you mean, Red, I always feel weird trying to record myself talking to the camera…usually (well, pretty much all the time!) I do it when no one is home! I haven’t posted it, though…not YET anyways!
I had no idea this move even existed till I saw this thread…but it’s really awesome, and one day, I shall do it! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif -
Wow Thank you Jenn! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
That was an impressive and easily understood addition that I really needed. I figured I was going for some kind of pulling/pushing thing, but I wasn’t entirely sure how I would do it safely, ’cause somehow the floor thing didn’t seem to work when I tried it… https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
I will give that a shot, and perhaps with time I’ll have the shoulder mount down https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cool.gif -
Technically, yes, I’d love to do the kicks in the video, and I’ve also seen a slide with that hold, all the way to the floor. I was rather impressed by it.
You have a good point, though, to work on other things than this. I suppose I’m just a little eager! I never really expected to jump right into a full shoulder mount yet, but I thought perhaps just slowly working toward it would help! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_bounce.gif -
For other movies to try, I wouldn’t know which to recommend…I’ve seen some moves be considered "beginner" where other people consider them "advanced" and vice versa! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_bounce.gif I personally like the front hook spin (called the "ballerina" where I learned it https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif ), as well as a variety of poses, floor work, that kind of thing. The "half spin" as well, is a great move and I use it all the time! That one is where you "step around" the pole, and there’s a little dip of the knees in the middle. I think at the beginning it’s more about feeling what you feel when you dance with the pole…whether it’s powerful, sexy, cute, fast or slow, or whatever else, and learning to convey that through the dancing. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif It’s not an easy thing for me, because I don’t "feel" a lot, and whatever I do feel, I don’t seem to have the strength to pull off…but I’m actually getting way back to the basics, to see what I can find there! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_sunny.gif
…and my camera battery is charged, so when I finally get up the motivation, perhaps I’ll share it! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
That video, gotta say, is awesome! I totally didn’t think of that grip! I’ve tried a couple, but that one might work better! I’ve been trying to re-find their videos, so thank you. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
Also, Veena’s lessons are AWESOME and I’m subscribing to them again when my paypal gets the money from my account https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif …but I understand if there’s some money issues there. Maybe just try a month, see if you can get the first few down, and practice that till you can afford more? You don’t necessarily need the videos to remember what they are! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cat.gif -
The only real time I’ve seen it is with a shoulder mount, but I’ve also seen it once before kind of leading into the shoulder mount…perhaps a video would help? I found this in my internet travels…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwNgychsN1Q&feature=email https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_bounce.gif
I know it’s an instructional video, I just can’t seem to emulate her very well. I was wondering if you guys knew of anything I might be doing wrong (like, specific hand placement to make it work) or if I was just not strong enough yet! -
That was great https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif I really liked that you were trying lots of different tricks to see what you could do. Also, I know all about the guys finding things easier…some of them are just monkeys at heart https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif (I mean that in the best way possible!)
I’d say that the only thing I would critique is your inside arm when you do the back-hook spin. It’s kind of…awkward? Maybe try putting the elbow on the other side of the pole, see if that works a bit better for you!
Otherwise, I’d say you’re doing wonderfully! Much better fan-kick than I can achieve! Maybe you could give me some pointers on that one? Mine sucks a lot! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_scratch.gif
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Hey there,
I’m one of those "constantly beginning" people who like to get back to the basics…and always manage to forget to dance for a good half-year, and have to retrain. One of the biggest things: Don’t tell anyone, especially yourself, that you can’t do anything! You can, obviously, do lots! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cat.gif
I’d say just move around, feel the music, trust the pole to hold you up, learn about moving up and down it, getting used to playing with what you have. That’s what I’m still learning to do https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Don’t push yourself if certain things hurt your muscles. If you find climbing painful, perhaps work on other stuff till you feel you can handle it (though I found climbing painful for a couple of times, and the sit still gives me pole burn) but when you learn lots of spins and get really strong, climbing and such will be easier!
Otherwise, work on what YOU want from the pole, how you feel when you dance with it https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif
And good luck! I look forward to seeing some videos! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif -
I find that if you do both, so if you warm up, strength train, do some cardio, and then stretch, it works out relatively well. I usually end up sore the next day, if I really push it, but I’ve never actually made myself too sore to function…well, I used to once or twice, but I don’t want to repeat that again!
You can really tighten the muscles if you just to strength training, though, and I find if I stretch right after, everything feels much better and happier, and a lot less sore! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_bounce.gif -
Castle, for Itunes it’s basically money. Each song is about 99 cents (although if you buy a whole CD, it’s usually cheaper…sometimes a LOT cheaper!) and if you buy a $15 iTunes card, that’s how much you have to spend. That’s how I normally get all of my music, or else from other people. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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Hey Georgia!
Wow, that was an impressive amount of information! I think I really like that idea though, of working on each thing I want individually, and then putting them together. I’ve got some things down already (like pointed toes!) but…
I’m never sure what specifically would be worked on to move through pole dancing as a dance? It might sound like I’m overthinking or making things difficult, but seriously, if I’m going from one spin into the next, I’m never really sure what to do between the two, that gives each move a logical flow (or perhaps an illogical but pretty one). Like, a REASON I’m turning and doing a back hook spin! Does that seem odd?
I suppose the other thing is that I may have a different idea of "move" than other people. Hip rolls I was told was a "move," or a bodywave.
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I forgot!
Instead of buying a DVD, I could also take instruction on this transition thing. I’ve gotten so used to just walking around the pole between moves, it just looks like a series of spins and poses with walking punctuating, and I don’t find that it’s very "dance" oriented. I’d love to just dance rather than work on moves, you know? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
So, if anyone can give me some really in-depth advice (you could even e-mail me! I’d love a pole penpal!) on transitions, and really just getting into the groove without working on moves, I would be SO GRATEFUL! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif That would possibly be the best thing, ever. Seriously. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_eek.gif
So, if anyone is up for that, you would save me money (thus giving this poor, starving student an act of charity https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif ) and help a fellow dancer feel more like she’s dancing. Then I could even subscribe a little earlier to Veena’s lessons, and maybe I would progress like crazy!
So…what I’m really asking is…Help me? https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_redface.gif -
Fleur, you took the words right out of my mouth, just with much, much better explanation and much less fervour. I agree entirely. Weight loss and health in our society takes a great deal of trying and dedication, and I wouldn’t want to use those "miracle" drugs to take away the sense of accomplishment I will have once I achieve my healthy lifestyle the way I want it.
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Hehe, my first score was "thighs on the prize." I enjoyed that! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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Honestly ladies, you may not agree with me, but I don’t believe in using pills, injections, or anything other than hard work and proper (read balanced) eating. I’d be afraid of things such as kidney failure, or the loss of too much weight resulting in (particularly for women) a very bad balance of body. If women don’t have enough fat, they lose their monthly cycle, because the body doesn’t believe you are healthy enough to bear children.
However, I’m glad you’re happy. I hope it all works out well for you, ‘kay?
