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I messed up my SI joint running a marathon. I didn't feel it during the race, but once it was over, o boy. Generally, working through shooting or stabbing pain is not a good idea, but I defer to your chiro for sure. I continued running through it, because it didn't hurt when I ran. I did that for months afterwards, and ultimately, it began to affect me almost constantly, and even during my work. I couldn't climb a ladder without stopping, taking a few breaths, etc, due to the pain. Because I was a building inspector at the time, I climbed a lot of ladders.
You're doing the right thing by getting it checked out. Do not do what I did, which was ignore and work through the pain blindly. It still gets irritated occasionally (injury was in 2008), especially since dancers tend to have issues with SI joint, and I noticed stretching for splits really irritated mine. However, after going to the physiotherapist and actually doing the exercises (ab work and stretching psoas) it has never been as bad as after the marathon. It just occasionally gets stuck.
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Kate92, you basically said exactly what I was thinking.
To me, gymnastic pole can be sexy… if I am not prescribing to a typical definition of the word "sexy". To me, I would call a piece sexy if it's sexually suggestive (lots of booty, or grazing, body rolls, incredibly slinky, or even just the attitude, etc). I would not in any way consider Crystal's piece suggestive, so I wouldn't call it a sexy pole piece, even though it was amazing and mind-blowing. To me, sexy = strong, sexy= smart, etc but I don't tend to use those definitions when describing things other than humans. I don't tend to use it for things like dances, dresses, films, chemical reactions (I had a prof who did that, hehe) etc.
At the same time sexy pole can at times be… not exactly something I enjoy watching. It goes both ways, as I would assume it would for everyone, based on individual tastes. Whether I like sexy pole (I do) or not, when I see an awesome gymnastic or contemporary dance piece, I'm still gonna like it. But it doesn't have to be sexy to be awesome to me.
I don't really think that sexy has gone from pole. It may not be de rigueur for some of the larger competitions now, but it very well may trend back. And I think a big reason it seems like its not the forefront, is because the media doesn't report on the studios empowering women nearly as much as it likes to report pole is attempting to get into the Olympics, or pole dancing for kids (gasp?!), etc. I think because of the Olympic push, a lot of the pole people going to the media tends to be trying to legitimize pole as a sport, which just doesn't include the sexy.
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Haha! Its totally the same! Whoops! Somehow I missed that!
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Here's an interesting link I recently saw about the recent evolution of modern gymnastics.
It's kind of a parallel, as I think many people look to gymnastics as a predictor of how pole will evolve on the global competition stage. If if big moves and clean technique are what score points, why would anyone expect the athletes (who train prodigious amounts of time and sacrifice so much of their daily lives) to spend time on looking artistic? There's no real pay back to do so.
I agree that artistry just cannot be judged objectively, with just a number assigned to it. Which is exactly why some competitions essentially just remove that factor. It makes sense. To me; however, dance will always be just that… art. It's not like basketball, where the whole point of the game is to score points. Dance just seems much more evocative, emotional, etc. in its history and evolution. It's social, spiritual, emotional, etc. etc.
It's not that I don't think people should compete in comps designed to be purely technique based. It's just that it doesn't appeal to me in any way.
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Also, let it be known: I am a pessimist. Don't take me too seriously. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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I know it can all be kind of crazy. I think the part that most blows my mind is how 'easy' it is to do if you keep everything under the radar. Once a person tries to stay on the up and up, it's like it never ends. If I decide to get insurance, then it starts to make sense to distance your personal assets from that liability, so create a company to do so. Once you have created a company, you've kind of made operating it on the down low technically harder to do, especially on paper (and the paperwork!). Violating the lease isn't a problem until one of my neighbors thinks the music is too loud and reports me. It just goes on and on.
Many many studios operate very loosely, because there isn't a lot of money in operating a studio, and conforming to all the laws just on the business side of things, not to mention the rent, equipment, teachers, and marketing, etc can really demolish the start up fund.
Teaching under the table isn't the worst that could happen. Someone really hurting themselves (big problem), and their insurance company digging into things can become a problem. Liability would be my biggest concern. I guess I wouldn't expect that teaching under the table would consist of things like insurance, appropriate technique or safety knowledge, or necessarily good instruction. It could, but I personally wouldn't bank on it. Same goes for studios, actually.
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To be a bit of a devil's advocate here, even the best teachers have students who injure themselves in their class. A teacher, even the best of the best, can't control the student entirely. (This is why insurance is a good thing, and typically, teaching out of your house incurs a certain amount of liability which your homeowners will not usually cover.) But good teachers definitely have the awareness to nip bad technique in the bud, keep safety first, and bring the right learning attitude to the class. I can't tell you how many times I have seen students push the no pain no gain attitude, but they can't recognize the difference in the pain of effort vs the pain of injury.
It's a sticky situation, to be teaching. To some degree, you protect yourself with getting insurance, setting up an LLC or company, getting a certificate etc. etc. But by the time you have done all of that you are behind money and time-wise. Plus other things can come up, ie, I can't teach out of my apartment, running a business there is a violation of the lease terms. So I would either have to do it under the table, or find a studio. Good studios will require a certain amount of training, likely won't have prime times available to you, and might need you to function as a subcontractor (more paperwork) so they can cover their asses. If someone just lets you walk right in and teach with no effort on their part, they probably aren't running a tight ship. Which isn't a problem usually, until something bad happens. Pretty much none of it is a problem, until something bad happens.
Suddenly, a few lessons on the side for pocket money become you losing money and time. I would agree with some of the other posters, if you just want a little pocket money, it would be really hard to do with teaching pole if you want to jump through all the hoops to do it right and make the time commitment. If it's a passion for you, go for it. If you just want to trade some time for working out pole with a friend for something they have, I wouldn't go crazy. But since you are advertising teaching pole, make sure you are capable of doing so, and doing so safely.
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I will have to try the nail glue! I have a pair of vivids that I haven't been able to keep the soles on, but I love them, so I haven't gotten rid of them. Hopefully, it will work and I can resurrect my favorite shoes 🙂
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Haha, though I wouldn’t think the filters were safe at all. Bottom line, most of us have probably lived in a house or gone to a school or other public building with asbestos in it. It’s something that is good to be informed about, but also not freak out about unless the asbestos is damaged.
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Well, when asbestos was made illegal in specific building products, it only made manufacturing those products illegal. So anything that was made prior to that mandate remained in use. Building materials get stockpiled, because like anything else, they don’t get used if there was extra, or a project goes belly up prior to completion, and they don’t typically go ‘bad’ etc. Those materials don’t just disappear. They end up in a warehouse somewhere, and when someone wants to cut corners, they buy cheap surplus.
Roofing materials can be a bit different. Going into any Lowe’s or Home Depot, you can find asbestos in almost all the roof patch. Because its a sticky tar, it’s damn near impossible to get the material friable. Plus, the percentage is also usually quite low.
As long as it’s intact, asbestos is really good for its intended uses, primarily insulation, surfacing materials like fireproofing, floor tiles, mastics, roofing materials etc. the list goes on and on. They even used to use asbestos in cigarette filters back in the day! -
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Basically any ceiling joist should be fine. I always just find the joist the closest to the center of the room, mark it out with painter's tape, and ensure that that the dome mount is centered directly over that joist. I have only mounted poles in newer construction, wallboard type situations, so I have never had problems finding joists. Joists can be somewhat easy to find, and depending on the age of the house anywhere from 16 to 24 inches apart. Often the joists themselves are about 1.5 inches wide. Hope that helps.
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OK, so not having seen your situation (some inspections legally require that the inspector touch the materials!), please know that I can only really provide general information. Roofing materials and ceiling materials are not the same. So, if I understand what you have said, the asbestos is present in the roofing materials, as in, the exterior? You would be screwing the polemount into an exposed wooden beam from the interior (and not all the way through the beam)?
Just generally based off this information without having seen the actual situation firsthand, this does not sound like a problem. Typically, the exposed beam on the interior would not be in contact with the asbestos roofing materials, as the roofing is likely laid on a plywood decking, laid over the ceiling beams. There are many types of asbestos roofing materials, from the nicollete paper to roofing tar, so I cannot tell you any specifics, because I do not know about your particular roofing system. However, if you are permanently mounting a pole on a beam, there should be no movement of said beam at all. I would not think this situation, as I understand it, would be a problem for the roofing materials, assuming roofing and beam you want to use are in good shape, not leaking, rotten, falling in, etc.
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I used to be an asbestos building inspector, so I have run into this before. Do you know for sure that the ceiling materials contain asbestos? If so, what is the material?
One thing to remember about asbestos, if it's in good condition, it's typically not a hazard. It's when it get disturbed that it becomes hazardous. If you know it's asbestos, I would advise against disturbing the material by drilling into it. Drilling into the ceiling would constitute a disturbance, which would in fact, have the potential to release asbestos fibers.
Houses do not have to be old to contain asbestos-containing building materials, especially friable ones. Due to stock piling, I have found asbestos in buildings that were built in 1996.
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You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. — Mae West
Go for it! Trying and failing is second only to trying and succeeding. Not trying will only keep you right where you are, and it sounds like that is the last place you want to be. You can do it!
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*Blaze oops!
