dustbunny
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Thanks for all the replies everyone! I agree that these basic moves are important and definitely didn't want to skip them. I'm looking forward to this, maybe I'll be able to get him to join Veena, or at least post something on this profile. 🙂
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As another "metal" head girl (haha not music, I used to be a machinist) I will add that Chrome Plating is safe for skin contact under normal circumstances. Some people however do have allergies or sensitivities that can cause rashes, swelling, or other symptoms. If you notice any unusual symptoms from using a Chrome pole, discontinue using it and talk to your doctor.
The chemical process that is Chrome Plating, is not friendly but the finished product is usually fine. The main reason that some people wear gloves to install Chrome plated parts has more to do with fingerprints, and smudges then from any safety concern for the installer. That being said, if your chrome plating chips or starts to come off for any reason, don't continue to use the pole. Chrome is very, very, hard. It will have sharp edges and will cut your skin if you scratch yourself on it. You can also have particles enter your body this way, which can cause chromium poisoning.
I definitely don't want to scare anyone, but if you're really worried about what's in your pole, maybe you should look at what's in your food first. There are far worse things in the foods we eat everyday. Example: check the ingredients list on your salad dressing…propylene glycol is automotive coolant, mechanics are taught not to get it on their skin but it's in most salad dressings…not only gross, but scary!
My concensus is that unless you have an allergy/sensitivity your Chrome pole will be safer for you than dinner. 🙂
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I agree FreeTheSun, you'd probably need a non-traditional pole coating so it would stand up to the chlorine or salt but I do think it would be a great training aid. Just to be able to learn what a position feels like without fear of falling would be a great help. I'll bet I could Aysha in a pool…I wonder how long I can hold my breath??? LOL
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When I first tried learning this move, I was bringing my bottom hand around the side of my bum/thigh. You can see what I mean here at 2:55 and 3:18. http://www.youtube.com/user/spinbunny?feature=mhee#p/u/19/h3DRb1nxGjY I found that really reaching back and down rather than around the side made a huge difference for me.
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Sorry, I don't know, just commenting so I'll get email's for responses. 🙂 I'd love to take some instructing courses online, I didn't even know you could!
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Another variation on the same excersice is to sit on the ground, back against your pole, legs straddled in a V.
While keeping both legs straight, try to lift one heel off the ground and hold a few seconds. It's hard, don't worry if you can't do it right away. Once you can do one at a time, try both legs!
Worked for me, my boomerang/fan legs, have improved immensly!
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I think it depends, in a more advanced class where you're learning to invert taking turns can be great because everyone has a spotter. That assumes that the instructor has taken the time to teach you how to spot though. In that case I think it's fine, and actually safer than having 6-10 girls learning to invert all at the same time with just one instructor.
If you're expecting to have a pole to yourself than it would totally suck, expecially in a class that's only an hour long. By the time you take time for warm-up/cool-down you're not really getting that much time on the pole. 🙁 Maybe if the classes were longer, like an hour and a half, than everyone would get a better turn.
The studio I started at had too many poles for the space…no one ever had to share, but we were bumping into eachother. So, I guess you have to compromise somewhere.
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Can't wait!
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I stopped going to my old studio not for the same reasons, but for other reasons I didn't feel like I was getting my money's worth. I do miss the social aspect of it, but other than that I feel I've done really well on my own.
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I think you're doing the right thing…no real warm-up and progressing too quickly without some real guidelines for technique/safety is a recipe for injury.
Veena's lessons here are great. I highly recommend them, the level of teaching you get for the price is just phenomenal! At first, I used the lessons to help me re-learn all the basics because I started out all wrong at the studio I started at (the only one in the area). I knew I was strong enough to do more, but it was difficult because my technique was totally off. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif Once I got a better foundation to work from, the intermediate and advanced moves began to come much more easily. Especially split-grip moves, my wrist used to KILL me from just trying to lift my weight for a couple milliseconds. With Veena's tips for proper hand positioning I could instantly hold it for longer without any pain at all! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
As for inverting, I'm not an instructor or anything, but if I was I wouldn't let anyone invert who couldn't do a few things; pole holds, knee tucks, controlled fan kicks, crucifix, and at least 2 steps of climbs. Even then, I would start them low and use crash mats. This is simply for liability issues, if someone falls and hurts themselves they could sue! These things help make sure you are not only strong enough, but that you understand the position you are going into. There is much less chance of falling, and even if you do being low to the ground and mats will prevent anything worse than some bruising.
Don't feel bad for holding yourself back, you know your body better than anyone and if you don't feel comfortable or safe then say so. Be careful and have fun out there. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif
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@Nymphdancer, I think you may be hearing me giggle too, lol. But I think I'm further than 5 hours away…try Ontario.
Let me clarify, giggling at nymph's comment (because I also relate to enjoying sex…ahem…a lot), not giggling at the topic. Don't want to hurt any feelings here. 🙂
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@Charley, I'm hoping to be able to come but as a member of the audience for now. 🙂
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I started out learning this move all wrong, it's a small adjustment but it made all the difference. I was kicking out with the inside leg and I couldn't get it, saw in V's lessons that she pushes off with the inside leg. When I made the switch, good things happened! 🙂
Also try it from the chair, it allows you to just feel the move rather than thinking about legs, kiching, and momentum. It just makes it simpler.
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I watched your last showcase live online Charley, I thought it was great!
I like both comps and shows, and for different reasons too. Obviously the thrill of watching the pros compete for a title is very exciting, and we often see newly invented moves at these as the girls (and guys) throw their all into the performances. But there seems to be a real lack of venues for the beginer or intermediate dancer to show off what they have accomplished, and as we were all beginers at one point we know how great it feels to finally be able to pole sit, or to invert without assistance. These things should be celebrated too, and a showcase is a great place to do just that. The other thing is that performing is an art in itself, on top of pole tricks or pole dancing, performing in front of an audience is very different to posting videos on youtube. There are no second takes, no clipping out the parts where you pull your shorts out of your butt https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif or where you stopped to wipe the pole. And how/where do you practice that? Some studios may encourage students to perform in front of the class, but not all do. And what about the ones who don't have a studio, who have learned from Veena, or youtube, or a friend with a pole?
I would love to get "good" enough to compete some day, but realistically even if I thought I was, I would be unlikely to enter a live competition because I have no pole performing experience. That experience is something I would like to have the opportunity to develop now, while I am still learning how to dance and pull off tricks. I wish there were more people like Charley who were willing to organize these types of events. On that note…do I recall you saying that you were doing another showcase in July??? Is that still happening? I would love to come watch a live pole performance, beginer or pro, I have been poling for almost 2 years and never seen anyone perform live.
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@Mechie Your instructor wouldn't LET you use a crash mat!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif OMG hun, you need to stop going to that studio…get a pole at home and use Veena's lessons. I've been following your other recent posts and I'm getting the feeling that they are just waiting for a liability lawsuit. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cop.gif
