Katherine McKinney
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As a feminist who wrote about interpellation in my master's thesis, I have heard the same arguments you've pointed out, Black Orchid. I tend to use this rebuttal:
1. If you're a feminist who believes women shouldn't wear make-up or dresses, then we don't need to discuss this any further. Confirmation bias is much too likely for both in this scenario.
2. If you're a feminist who wears dresses occasionally, you do know that dresses are also symbols of oppression and slavery, right? Today, when the average person sees someone wearing a dress, does he/she think, "Tut tut, she's wearing a symbol of oppression?" Doubtful.
3. Sexuality can and has been reclaimed by women in multiple ways. To say that women cannot own a certain form of sexuality isn't giving women a lot of credit for the strides we've made. Pole-dancing will not take us back to complete subjugation; rather, pole-dancing forces people to rethink the dance form and what it means. Perspective is everything.
A name is very powerful, and so are the associations that come along with it. With time and continued rational rebuttals to the assumptions that people make, pole fitness will have less and less of a stigma. I mean, it's already on "America's Got Talent." It's safe to say that pole-dancing is on its way into the mainstream.
***Also, I have no problem with stripping. I've done my fair share of dancing for money. ;)***
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I am at home all day right now, so I am very flexible as far as being able to SkypePole. I would love to practice with some of you ladies! Now that I have moved to a new town with not a lot of pole presence, I would love to meet some new pole buddies. 🙂
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If Peytonplays had posted her question with a respectful tone, looking for information instead of looking to vent, she would have received many helpful, friendly replies. I doubt anyone would have had a negative reaction if they'd seen this post::
"I'm curious as to what kind of incentives Studioveena.com receives from X-Pole. Sometimes it seems like people are biased toward X-Pole on here. Can anyone tell me if I'm off the mark here?"
I've seen that time and time again on this forum–as long as queries/complaints are voiced in a respectful way, they are answered fully and respectfully. I'm saying this having used StudioVeena for a full year, having disagreed sometimes with people and having agreed with others. I have never experienced what Peytonplays experienced when I disagreed with someone on this site. And I own a Lil' Mynx, a TG Expert, and I'm planning on buying a PS starr!
If Peytonplays wasn't a troll, she shouldn't have behaved like one. This is the internet, and many of the cues we see in person aren't here. If you start ranting and raving about the two people that almost everyone here have come to care about very much, you will receive censure from the general community.
Bottom line: disagreement is fine, but cool off first and don't make the community think you're yelling and/or attacking because it never ends well.
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Luvlee, maybe we could have outtrolled that troll. 😉
Kobajo, I am marrying a network security analyst in February, so I have lots of access to the internet underbelly. I mean, this guy roped me into playing World of Warcraft for a little while (which was an enlightening and entertaining experience).
As far as I can tell, most trolls don't have criminal intent. They see themselves as flushing out the n00bs (newbies) and overly histrionic commenters. They get their jollies from baiting comment threads to get 100+ angry replies. Payton Place was probably rolling over and dying laughing over that comment thread, unfortunately. Just like at the playground, lots of kids are there to have fun, but there are always a few who get their kicks from bullying the others, so as the old saying goes, "Sticks and stones . . ."
One final word–I applaud the way Veena and the webmaster handled the situation. They gave the troll a measured answer and then moved away. It's the only way to answer a troll, if a troll is answered at all. It would have been best if Payton's comment had just been buried at the bottom of the board within a few minutes because no one replied, but at least the webmaster only reacted to the legal terms in her post and moved on.
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It's kinda funny, actually. With that name, she had troll written all over her. I think the problem is that everyone here IS too nice and supportive. If the only response to her original thread had been:
U MAD?
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She/he would have known immediately that we caught the trolling and it would have ended there. Another good way to flush out a suspected troll is to say, COOL STORY, BRO.
Lol, sorry, I'm on the interwebs waaaay too often. 😉 Besides this semi-serious answer, though, ignoring a troll is really the only way to get rid of it. No audience, no drama.
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I learned it coming down from my twisted grip handspring. The best advice I can give is to not think of yourself as lowering so much as twisting around. When you're in the twisted grip handspring, you lower a bit and then twist your body to the side. This is what gives the illusion of the Iron X. You can just lower down into the Iron X with your body straight out, but it takes a lot more energy that way.
Hope that helps!
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Watt?? Funnily enough, I just favorited a video of hers last night because it had some awesome floorwork!
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Thanks, Chemgoddess1. I checked out the website, and Allison especially is a sublime performer! I am definitely going to try to get in on that action!
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I'm sorry–I don't mean to bump this up because I'm impatient! I just wanted to add that I'd also love some advice on pole studios in the Orlando area or to meet polers from the Orlando area.
Thanks!
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Just saw the price, sorry! Can't wait to see a link!
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I am a size 6 and I loooove really tall heels. Would love to see a link and know your price!
Thanks!
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The pink Lil Mynx was my first pole! I now have a 45 mm TG Xpert, and I am iiiin love. Although the powder-coated was great for beginning, I found it tough to work on when I started trying to do Superman. I kept tearing up my skin because of the grippiness.
With that said, the over-grippiness could have had something to do with my big, Hispanic thighs. 😉
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I recommend OkCupid. I was an early adopter on the site–from 2004 until now. I think the key is not to see it as captial 'D' Dating but to look at it as a chance to network and perhaps meet someone you like. Over the years, I've met guys and girls from the site–made some good friends that I still chat with to this day.
I also met my current guy on the site, and he's the bees knees, to say the least. I've had roommates that I met on the site, and the longest I dated someone I met on the site was about a year.
Have I met duds? Absolutely! But have I also met duds at the bars and when I was in school, in my classes? And at work? Absolutely!
Bottom line–the stigma from online dating is pretty much gone from where I'm setting. As long as you keep your expectations casual, you can have a lot of fun and meet new friends and (possibly) a significant other.
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This is really timely. I've been incredibly critical of my work lately. Thanks, Veena!
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Four in the morning seems like a pretty normal bedtime to me! 😉 Is there something special you have to be up for in the morning?
Thankfully, I don't teach until six at night, so I feel that four am is a pretty reasonable bedtime. I've always been a night owl, so I've just stopped fighting it.
Also, do you find that after you take a break, you come back stronger when poling? Because of moving and buying a house and teaching doubles, I had to take almost a month off of poling, and while my first couple of practices were miserable, a lot of moves I'd been trying suddenly clicked–like the TG handspring and the dangerous bridge.
Basically, I agree with everyone. You're being way hard on yourself! I hate strength training, too, so dancing is my strength training. The reason I pole in the first place is to have fun. That's why this is the only form of exercise that ever worked for me. I'm with you–strength training is the pits.