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Yup commented on YT… brilliant, well done & FUN! We have a showcase at our studio this coming Sunday (come join us if you’re in the area — tix still available!) & we’ll put on a couple group routines I’m responsible for, including a Zombie one… Hope we look as good as this! Well, ours is not an advanced routine, but… Still if we could be as clean & sync-ed up as u all are that’d be great. Maybe if we are, I’ll even post the vid here on SV — I never have before! So wish us luck!
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(and hence, “high-risk”?)
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OMG should I worry abt the toothpaste I get on the skin of my lips during the 3min I brush my teeth? 2x a day? Everyday? So 10x/wk = 60min/wk? That is if I’m practicing good oral hygiene… Hmmmm… Just guaging this risk vs that of 10-15 secs of tp on my hands maybe 2x-5x a week? Even everyday that’s maybe up to 120secs a week = 2 min/wk?
Yeah I think I feel the odds are low-risk enough vs using toothpaste in (& inevitably some ON) my mouth, that I feel confident & comfortable advising my students to try this approach of rubbing the stuff on their hands & rinsing right off.
BTW Anyone know the safety of our skin’s exposure to iTac? ? X-grip? Dry Hands? And at what point is our use of any said products (used as directed, of course) excessive?
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OMG @Tovah, I doubt u no more…
Of course I’m such a geek I couldn’t leave it alone & went Google-ing it… And boy did I come across some info on this indeed… Ok maybe less (or more?) funny, but if ur interested liek me, check it out — but be warned for there’s some KNARLEY graphic stuff out there, like here:http://male-health.org/penile-fracture-can-you-really-break-your-penis/
Yikes, ouchy… Ok kinda sad really… Or is it? esp when u read about the disproportionately high cases of these “fractures” documented as resulting from extra-marital affairs. Hmmm…
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Ok wait a second!!! More on the fractured penis story!!! That is almost TOO much, but… Can a penis be fractured? I mean there’s no bone tissue in there, right? Or pardon my anatomical ignorance if I’m wrong, but I could have sworn there’s no bone, just a lot of nerves & muscle & other tissue & blood vessels & such… If this is correct, then can u “fracture” a part of ur body that has no bone? Like, can’t “fracture” a boob for sure…
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Weird, where I mostly need grip help is in my knee & elbow pits (so dry & slidy!). Ok abt to hop in shower w/tube of toothpaste & finish those two areas off w/the toothpaste, as I have a rehearsal later this afternoon for a show our studio is putting on… Question is, will the effect last thru the next 8 hours? (I have a hair appt & wedding to go to in between…) Well, I guess I will let u all know afterwards if it worked! Toothpaste! LOL
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1st of all I hve to say, Elektra if u’r getting even 1/2 close to doing this trik, u r badass. 2nd, maybe u already noticed this, but just in case u haven’t I’ll point it out. In that pic looks like she’s actually pushing away from the pole to some extent w/top of ankle of her BOTTOM leg… Could that be what gets her butt away from the pole?
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Oh, 1 more thing (yes sorry, just 1 more thing):
Our studio retails a LOT of x-poles! And we’ve had so many inquries abt the new brass offerings, which we don’t yet stock bc of these failed experiments on our own end. So needless to say we as a policy (at least right now) do NOT recommend/endorse the brass finish to people who want to buy them. How could we confidently do so, considering how insecure they seem? They may indeed be more secure than they look/feel, but we aren’t about to test that out on the backs (or necks!) of our patrons! -
Hi dearly-beloved fellow polers, and not-always-so-dearly-beloved x-pole. So I have to chime in here based on experiences we’ve had at our studio w/brass over the last year — and yes, I guess we JUST missed that 2-month-ago switch, so all below comments pertain the the old “matte” (not polished) finish…
*** POLE #1 : brass x-stage ***
This one got very little use initially, up until recently, as in about 3 months ago, suddenly we started to use it ALOT. In the beginning it was impossibly slippy! But THEN… well, we’d heard people say “u just have to break the brass ones in, and once u do, the grip is AMAZING”. Oh SO true! We all came to crave that grip & resent other poles! That said, I started to also notice in me that my skin perhaps didn’t agree w/that finish, as I would get really strange bruises from doing moves I’ve done 1,000 x’s & that stopped bruisimg me ages ago! Weird. However, I should also add that after noticing this and also similar experiences from playing on powder-coated Lil Minx poles earlier last summer, I’ve developed a theory that skin tends to bruise up more from poling on a new/diff surface that ur not very used to. Maybe that sounds crazy? Can’t think of any other explanation.Ok onto…
*** POLE #2 : brass 45mm ***
Again, great grip, even better than our 1st experience, almost right from the get-go. Even our sweatiest students got on there to confirm this, LOVING that pole! EXCEPT…
THE WOBBLE!!!! WTF?!?
Literally I mean, nice & securely PRESSURE-MOUNTED, u could feel like the hulk the way anyone could just go up & grab that thing & make it jerk to & fro! & unlocked to spin mode: WORSE! You could have 100lb-er on there, daintily spinning w/all the control in the world, & still that pole really bowed while spinning, holy cow!
So off that pole goes, back to the -pole offices to take a look & give us s’thing better. They checked by rolling it on the floor (make sure surface is flat) to see if any wobble or other unnevenness was detected (duh! We never considered doing that!), saw a problem w/the one we had (w/only 1 week’s worth of BARELY any use on it!), gave us new pieces to replace the “bad” warped ones, & off we go back to studio…
*** POLE #3 (kind of): #2 w/new pieces from x-pole ***
NO improvement at ALL in wobble. Upon completing the installation of it, from the very 1st spins (on static & spin mode) & set of trix, the pole was already swaying around. Ayayay… And this time we ourselves did that “roll on the ground” test to insure that it was indeed perfectly straight and not already bowed (it wasn’t). All that rigamarole (& time lost?!) for NO change! We tested & talked about it to quite a degree, but in the end, it was bad enuf that our studio owner was like “no way, this is a liability & can’t have such an insecure-looking & -feeling pole in the studio for general use”. So (sadly) we took it down & back it goes into it’s travel case…I’ve been keeping up w/the threads here on x-poles, stages & brass to see if I can learn more & understand better what is going on with this. I read, for instance one person’s explanation of how brass is an alloy mixture of 2 (?) diff metals, I guess making it inherently softer/weaker? So I wonder if that’s part of the problem? I will also add that we SWEAR the brass pole on our x-stage is NOT wobbly like this! I mean, we are pretty certain of this, even normalizing in our minds for the fact that there is some invevitable wobble on a stage pole by design. We swear we feel more secure on that stage than on this ceiling-to-floor pressure-mounted thing. Then again, maybe the pressure-mounting ITSELF is the problem? Would a permnent-bolted set-up be optimal for this alloy???
Anyway, anyone else out there have issues w/that wobble? I’m so surprised that I have not yet seen anyone mention this (unless I’ve just missed it).
Well, I’m off to CPDC in abt an hour, & expect x-pole reps will b there. If so, get ready, bc here I come — I’ll be making a bee-line straight for your booth quite a conversation abt this!
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Call me naive or crazy, or both… But couldn’t this be as “simple” as starting from a wrist-seat? Then 1 leg goes up, 1 goes down, & fold ur spine backwards like it’s made of rubber. 🙂
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Surprised no one has mentioned PDI (Pole Dance International). I met the editors/owners at PoleCon in LA last June. Seem like good folk… Tho it hurt, I forked out the $10 for a copy of their mag that they recently re-invented/re-designed. Looks good, reminds me of like a "dwell" or s'thing, cover is matte rather than glossy… Anyway, they seem like publication pros, and I'm anal about things like that, so that right off the top gave them points in my book… but ouch that price point… If I recall correctly, they claim to be the oldest pole mag out there, and to have been the 1st to cover International pole news/events/performers/etc…
Anyway, that said, admittedly, I've been ridiculously too busy to even just SIT for 1 hour to finally give that mag a nice relaxed but thorough perusing, so can't speak much to the writing at this point. Nice photo shots. They also claim to NOT be affiliated with any once single pole organization, so that was another major point in their favor for me… And smart of them, I think… the whole reason why I am now embarrassed to have purchased an annual subscription to Pole Spin for my studio owner (as an x-mas gift last year) is precisely because of its affiliation with the APFA — which I learned only 1-2 months AFTER buying that sub about all the controversy around that organization (particularly stemming from their requirements that APFC finalists refrain from engaging with the exotic/adult entertainment world), even legal issues (something to do with some problems with the Susan B Komen foundation), poor management (owned by Tinu who has apparently made some really infantile public comments and really lacks professionalism) — nevermind the disappointing quality of the mag itself… Needless to say there will be NO renewal of this subscription…
Can anyone else out there weigh in on experience with PDI? One more claim from PDI I will throw out there that let's see if I can relay accurately: they will publish details of ANY and ALL pole events they get info about from anyone who submits… Any comp/show, etc — True? I wonder? Again, anyone else out there have any 1st-hand experience with this?
Last thing: I know Pole Spin is issued quarterly, no idea about PDI (geesh, for the $10 I spend you'd really think I ought to pull out that mag and finally LOOK at it a little more carefully, huh?). I also think it is NOT quite as expensive as PDI, but I could be wrong. I know I spent about $30-s'thing on the annual, so I suppose the price is not actually that far off…
Good forum topic, thanks for starting/continuing it… https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_heart1.gif
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@Rixi – yup, more upbeat indeed, which I also love. Same reason I love Allegra. Because I too am a hyperspazz on the pole. So I love seeing it in others, who can make swift movements on the pole look attractive (nevermind what everyone says about how I need to try slowing it down — I personally don’t want these ladies to “slow it down”).
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damn! well-deserved win indeed. You are bad-ass, Charlee, take your place right up there at the top among the best, baby, you belong there for sure. I remember her from PoleCon, she entered the Trix battle, and did that crazy 1-handed flippy thing, nuts. So cute, she told the MC that she called it "the shocker" or s'thing like that… Those kinds of "POW!" moves remind me of Flying Laura… then I saw Natasha in her with that elbow-hooked "Jallegra" as I've seen it referred to here on SV… and a little of Mai Sato with the crazy flexy moves later in the routine back on the spinner… and beautiful rockin' REMY move with the insane back-bend hold (what?!?!), that by the way she DROPPED into!! OMG… the more I think about it, the more I'm like, wow, memorable performance… inspirational dancer…
on an even more accessible level, what a gorgeous side climb at the beginning! Charlee, if you are out there reading this (or people on FB maybe can relay this for me), please contact me if you should find yourself anywhere in San Diego/SoCal in the future…
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eek how scary (info from chemgoddess)… ugh, but it feels SO GOOD to be upside down! what's up with THAT?
you know, I wonder how this phenomenon might vary from person to person based on their individual makeup/design? Where I'm going with this is that I, for instance, am one who since my teen years have had a bit of circulation issues in my legs (started getting mild varicose veins early on, exacerbated by birth control in later years, then pregnancies, etc)… In *spite* of always being VERY active and fit, and just generally having a pretty great metabolism & general state of health. But it's such that in college I started having to really be careful about how much high-impact excercise I engaged in (too much would result in some scary big red and HOT swelling)… Anyhow, what I found with pole (and yet one more reason why it is so up my alley), as with activities I naturally gravitated to since I was a small child, like playing on the monkey bars, skating, biking, swimming, and dancing… is that the "lift" I'd get off the ground from pole dancing (hence the low or even NO impact), especially when that lift was getting those heavy (and problematic) legs either at the same height as or even above my head, is just such a comfortable thing for me! In fact I now wonder how much has to do with me forcing more blood to pump to muscles in the more upper zones of my body vs the lower half — perhaps this is a bit of relief for my system, circulation-wise? I swear hanging upside down (which I can happily do for quite a long period of time) is such a relaxing state for me, I even get some nice "adjustments" (read: major clicking!) in my spine out of some positions/moves, so much that I feel like it was an instant visit to the chiropractor! (oh that blessed brass monkey! especially weaving into it from a Gemini!)
ok, well sorry for the TMI all, as I guess I am maybe just a weirdo this way… but was just inspired to share and maybe see if anyone else had any further insight or experience related to the whole "hanging upside down is great for me" angle…
I *can* see though how that is probably NOT the norm, and it's good to have read all the above and have it in my consciousness. I now get how when I teach pole conditioning classes and realize after a while of having students do exercises in upside-down positions, why most of them start struggling to sustain that… and I'll be like "c'mon! what's the problem? keep going!" oops… guess the problem is most other (normal) humans are not designed to hang out like that (unlike strange vampire-me) for long…
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Hanka u make that video awesome (even in spite of the creepy gawking dudes… Ah, oh well, what r we hot pole dancers to do? We certainly can’t help but have this effect on people!). Anyway, excited to be on this forum w/u!
But I’m even MORE excited that NO ONE else has mentioned the video by the QUEEN herself that has some hot (albeit brief) pole dancing in it — one of my FAVORITE videos by one of my (and everyone’s!) favorites of all time:
MADONNA! Of course she would have a video somewhere in her repertoire w/pole dancing in it! Check out “Music” (oohh, such a hot song too!)… There was a time I would just replay this vid over & over just to watch that one part in the club… And it’s DEFINITELY got that female empowerment slant we are all wanting to see more of…So there’s another one for the playlist! Check it out & enjoy! 🙂
