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Nope. Everyone on my friends list is at least 21 or over. I suppose that could have happened–obviously I don’t know everyone who is friends with those on my friends list and whether or not they would be offended. It just really annoys me that Facebook would review the situation and find the photos to be offensive, since they’re not actually violating any rules. If they are going to have rules, than they need to follow them–which would mean NOT removing photos if they’re not actually violating the policy, regardless of whether someone didn’t like them. I saw a picture of a very unattractive baby on there the other day–should I be able to flag that and make them take it down because I find it ‘offensive’ even though it’s not violating anything?

I can’t control who walks into a room at the same time one of my friends is looking at my account. How am I supposed to be able to put up videos and pictures now without worrying that my account is going to be shut down for who knows how long? I don’t want to put the pictures of on Myspace–the whole reason I made the Facebook account in the first place was so that I could share my poling progress with friends who were interested.

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I’m sure if something is flagged they probably just automatically lock the account–but what is the point in even reviewing the situation if they are just going to remove the content even when it doesn’t violate their rules? Now I’m not sure what I can even put up on my account without getting it disabled again and not being able to use it for at least a week, possibly more depending on how long it takes for them to actually reactivate it again. I’ll check my privacy settings when I can log back in, but I really thought that everything was set properly so that all the pictures were private. On the very small chance someone on my friends list reported them, I have no way of knowing who did it, because I’m not on bad terms with anyone and like I said, it’s a very small list, and most of the people on there are interested in pole dancing themselves–several encouraged me to put up pictures and video so they could see them. I think one of my friends was more pissed than I was when Facebook took them down. It would be very strange for any of them to report the photos.

It just seems to me that if you are going to have guidelines, if someone flags pictures for being in violation, sure, temporarily lock the account until you can make sure review it. (Although letting me know what’s going on would be nice.) But then once you review the situation and find that they are NOT actually in violation, why then would you go ahead and delete them anyway? What’s the point of even having rules then, if you’re not going to follow them yourselves? I could go around and flag any pictures I want; it doesn’t mean they are actually in violation.

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The thing is that my photos ARE supposed to be viewable by friends only. I made all of them private so no one could see them who wasn’t on my friends list. I’ve only got about a dozen people on my friends list, and all of them either already knew about my pole dancing and are fine about it or even dance themselves, so I highly, highly doubt it was someone on my friends list. The only thing I can think of is that I missed a setting and someone who wasn’t supposed to was able to see my profile picture and complained; other than that, I’m not sure.

What ticks me off is that if they’ve reviewed it, then they should have seen that the material fell well within their guidelines. It’s not like I’m uploading pornographic material, for God’s sake.

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To me I really do not understand why some choose to judge exotic dances. The whole reason I bought this up today was one, I really wanted to know if I was safe talking about it. (I practice mostly at the club I dance at, and it is also where I met my husband (He was the DJ I was the dancer https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif ) But another "pole dancer" came into the club last night and proceeded to try and humiliate me in my own club. Granted I put her in her place when I got on stage and busted out with some of my best tricks and then told her to step up or shut up, but it still really aggravated me. I hate nothing more then when a fellow pole dancer comes into the club with her man, or a male friend and just snubs me. Sadly, it happens more then it should.
Yes I dance on a stage, and dance in nothing but a thong at work. That does not make me any less skilled. In a way I have found that dancing topless has actually helped with precision when it comes to poling. (There is nothing worse then getting pole burn on your girls). Honestly, I think dancing in front of a crowd night after night has really helped me as a pole dancer because it helps me gauge what works and what doesn’t. (Not to mention most clubs have more then a pole to dance on, so I have learned some other acrobatic things as well.) The club I work at now actually has an I beam on the second stage that I have recently figured out how to do the splits on and I can swing from it. Another club had a stationary trapeze bar that with my husbands help, I was able to do cordovas on among other tricks.

Re: pole burn on the girls: yikes!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif I didn’t even think about that–I strip down topless for my boyfriend when I dance for him, and that honestly just hasn’t occured to me. I’ll make sure to keep a close eye on the ladies next time and make sure I’m not endangering them. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif

I haven’t been subjected to it personally since I’m not a stripper, but there does seem to be a certain contempt from some pole dancers toward strippers. Like I said, I don’t know why because the art of pole dancing came straight from the gentleman’s clubs, so if you have a love for pole dance, why would you basically dump all over its history? It wasn’t a couple of housewives that got together while their kids were playing on the playground and went ‘Hmmm, you know, it would be really cool if we hung upside down by just our legs from one of these poles. While taking off our shirts.’

I’ve never been into a strip club before, but would be interested in going some time to maybe pick up some ideas–unfortunately I’m at least an hour and a half away from the nearest one, so it’s not just a quick trip after work for me. But if I ever finally get the opportunity to visit one, there is no way in hell I would go in there trying to show up the dancers. That’s just idiotic. In the club, they are the dancer and I’m just another customer. I might be different in a certain respect because I have this odd fascination with strippers, though. I don’t know why–maybe it’s just that I’ve always done office work and cannot imagine doing the stuff I do at home half-naked in front of a roomful of strangers and getting paid for it. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Anyway, being a dancer, I don’t have to tell you there’s a certain stigma attached to stripping, and just because someone is a pole dancer does not automatically exclude them from the masses of people who are judgemental about it. They separate stripping from pole dancing because they enjoy dancing, but don’t want to be labeled a stripper because people make a lot of unjust assumptions about strippers. They are morally bankrupt, sleazy, drugged-up, etc. in a lot of people’s minds. I think they just can’t fathom that there are actually some perfectly normal, well-adjusted people out there who just happen to take their clothes off for money. There are plenty of people who aren’t strippers who are morally bankrupt, sleazy, drugged-up etc. etc.–are they better simply because they don’t wear a thong to work? Some people would say yes. It’s just the kind of crap you will always have to put up with as long as you dance, from all walks of life, and that will probably always include some people who do the same thing in the privacy of their own home.

And I agree with the floor work vids!! Get ’em up pronto, woman.

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Welcome to SV!

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Nope. Actually, if I had a pole buddy who was also an exotic dancer, like Dayanara, I’d be bugging her constantly for some floor work tips. I do striptease pretty often when I pole, either for my boyfriend or just for myself, so it’s not like I think the two should be kept separate or anything. (But if you want to separate them and just concentrate on the artistic side of pole, that’s great too. It can be about the gymnastics, or it can be about sensual dance, or a combo of the two, and that’s what I love about it.)

It actually kind of irritates me when I see people in the pole dancing industry copping this snotty attitude toward dancers (I haven’t seen that here, though, and I’d be surprised if I did, as I think a couple of the girls dance,) because hello?! Where do you think we got it from in the first place? Strippers are the ones who brought us this art–why should we snub them?

Anyway, I don’t think you’ll have any problems fitting in here. From what I’ve seen most, if not pretty much all of the regular posters don’t have a problem with dancers.

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lol Me too. I am left side retarded at everything I do, not just pole. It would be horrendous to watch. Like the train wreck with bodies hanging out the windows, you don’t want to look, but you just can’t take your eyes off it.

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P.S – Real women terrify insecure men. Never forget that! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif

That’s a good point. Also, strong, independent women tend to intimidate men, and they have to cover that up with insults. I’d say a woman showing off some pretty damn impressive tricks that he could never even hope to imitate was a tad intimidating for his little pea brain. And I still don’t get where he got ‘fat’ from, except that it’s an obvious female insecurity to pick at, because honestly, I don’t even see any jiggly bits in your pics. You just look really strong and athletic. He was probably afraid you could beat him up and had to make himself feel more like a man by making fun of you.

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Yep. It’s not the screen–that’s at 100% brightness. It’s some kind of setting on my computer that is screwed up. I messed with something one time because I occasionally play games on my computer, and the game I was playing was so dark I couldn’t see most of it, so I went in and fiddled with a bunch of stuff. Unfortunately, I have no clue what I messed with so I can’t go back and change it. I’m not super tech-savvy either, so I’m afraid to screw around too much. Technology really, really hates me–somehow I would manage to blow the computer up or something. lol

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Welcome to the boards! Jamilla is very well known in pole dancing circles–she has a DVD series that is a favorite of pretty much everyone that owns pole dancing DVD’s; you’re really lucky to have done a workshop with her. She’s a beautiful dancer, isn’t she?

Pole dancing is an amazing, challenging sport. I’m glad you found your way into it.

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Liquid chalk works really well for holds, but don’t expect to spin with it on. Also, my problem with liquid chalk is that I sweat through it really fast. If your problem is more nerves and not because you’re an excessively heavy sweater, than you might do ok with it, but just be aware that though it is very helpful, it can come off pretty quickly. It seems like most people use it when they are learning a new move that they are not quite confident with yet and want the added grip.

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Happy birthday, jennasmom! My birthday is January 29th. I’ll be 24 next year.

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Actually…… I just finished recording 24 lessons on Transitions and floorwork. Many of them are new and a few are just updated. I’ll add even more at a later date! I am also in the process of re doing all of the spins as well. I’ll be add a few new lessons here and there, but the focus for now is to updated all the old lessons that are left…..as soon as that is done I have a big surprise for everyone!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_cheers.gif

I can’t tell you how happy it makes me to hear that you all are enjoying the lessons!!! https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif

*Squeals like a schoolgirl* A surprise? You friggin’ tease! I can’t wait to see the new lessons. I’m glad to hear you’re re-doing the old vids, too–not that they are bad, but they’re quite a bit darker than the new ones, which are really nicely lit. (Plus I love the slide-outs.) My video settings are screwed up and I’m not sure what to change to fix them, so any videos that are a little on the darker side are sometimes really hard for me to see. (I can see the old vids, though. It’s just a little harder to make out some details, especially when I’m standing a little ways away at my pole.)

Can’t wait!

And can I say I love the lap dance vids? You guys are so funny together. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif I think I’m going to try the chair invert on my boyfriend the next time I give him a lap dance. I just hope I don’t somehow bonk him with my lady bits or something. https://www.studioveena.com/img/smilies/icon_lol.gif

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I love the lessons as well. I was just taking another look at them today, actually. They are so well laid out–very helpful. Big thanks to Veena for such a valuable resource! One questions though–are we going to be seeing some more floorwork and transition videos? I love floorwork.

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I love burlesque! It looks like so much fun. I know there are a few instructional DVD’s on Amazon, if you do a search on burlesque in the movies section. I can’t remember what they’re called, but if I recall correctly, they got pretty good reviews. I am thinking of maybe eventually picking one up.