[moonflower]

@ PoleDollqld

Brass is a non ferrous metal that is often used along with copper in plumbing/water pipes. so I would think that water shoudl not be a problem as long as nothign corrosive is in it. But I'm no pro, maybe Chemgoddess can chime in.

I DO know that ammonia corrodes brass very well. When I made brass props for costumes, I would hang new shiny brass pieces over ammonia and the fumes alone will tarnish and age the piece in only a few short  hrs. This is why I reccommend only polishing brass poles occasionally when they are over tarnished, many brass polished contain ammonia. I think brasso removed the ammonia from their products in some countries though.

 

[moonflower]

Not wiping the pole often should not make such a difference. I don;t wipe my pole down often either as I find a slightly dirty pole is grippier.

Do not brasso every 3 weeks. Brass polishes work by removing and therefore smoothing down the top layer.

Try just cleaning it with 70/30 methylated spirits and water after use and that's it. Don;t worry too much about little discolouring for a while and see how the pitting look after. Don;t over use brass polish as it is abrasive. Just relax about it for a while and see how it is after a few weeks of use. I'll worry if the pits are getting deeper, but if it's just colour then i wouldn't worry. Last thing I'll want to do is make it worse by doing too much to it.

 

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What have you used on your pole before you notice it? Tarnishing and  coloured spots are normal with brass poles but pitting i have never seen.

I've used vinegar on my hands and it hasn't caused any problems. The vinegar combined with the salt on your skin will cause your pole to tarnish a little but that's normal on a brass pole.

Tarnish is a surface reaction and the tarnishing actaully stops itself once a thick enough layer is formed, this layer protects the brass underneath from the elements. This is the reason why very old brass items can be polished back to a brilliant shine. The same reason why a real brass pole is for life, even if it is completely covered with tarnish, the brass underneath is stellar.  Small amount of tarnish comes off very easily with brasso.

The large spot  at the base looks like normal wear and tear that happens with brass. It should come off easily (as it did) and you should expect to get them here and there. But pitting  (where corrosion has penetrated the metal)  has me boggled.

Sometimes the brass cleaner themselves can add to the pitting if the PH is too low, as the acid etches into the metal. I would be wary of over polishing it.

Do you remember leaving any chemicals on the poles?

 

 

 

[moonflower]

I have never had skin reaction to chrome, but my skin does not like the X pole brass at all. Not only with lack of stick, but if I use the x pole brass for several days in a row, I get a red bumpy rash  on contact points (except palms). I want to clarify that I CAN dance on it once in a while with no issues, it's not immediate. I only have a problem if I'm on it for several days in a row.

As for the TG, I have no problems with it at all. And again, chrome does not cause any problems for me and is one of my favourite metals to dance on.

 

[moonflower]

Funny, I was just tthinking of her today. No I haven;t heard anything. She was one of the first youtube polers I imitated when i started out.

[moonflower]

My problem with the death lay is that I slide a bit when I shoulder mount, especially when I'm sweaty. So half the time, I'm too low so it doesn;t look half as good. It's one of those moves that I can do at the beginning of a practice, but not at the end.

[moonflower]

Also, good catch on the user name Empy!

[moonflower]

Julie:  Would it make you feel better if I reword it and say that "We are being trolled" or "She is trolling us"? That way, the word "troll" is being used as a verb to describe her ACTIONS (commenting with the sole purpose of getting a rise out of us for shits and giggles) rather than the person.

Also, I think any sort of banning should be done as a very last resort, it's a slippery slope.

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Hey girls, lets stop fanning the flames, the fire can only burn if it's fed.

I have no idea what Payton's objectives are, but she is here to do SOMETHING. I dont; know if she is trying to make Veena look bad, or trying to get everyone all worked up defending X pole or if she really believes in the things she says (which is ridiculous). It could be anything. We don't know. Let's not let her posts turn this place hostile.

[moonflower]

Thanks for the video. The lack laster design of the star stand alone is why I went for the X stage instead. I have a x stage standard though and that thing does NOT budge, very sturdy. The X stage lite however, had to have its legs duct  taped down during the Toronto showcase because it was lifting up before ths show. But still very stable for a stage pole otherwise.  The X stage is very well designed.

 

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I'm actually going to speak up and say that I  DID noticed a push towards x pole in the forum up until very recently. This is the reason I didn;t get a PS pole for so long. I was led to believe that they had horrible service, which is not true. 

However, it's not Veena or the forums doing. The push against PS is done by only a few individuals who make the same remarks in almost every fourm I've been to, not just veena's. This forum is NOT promoting only X pole, what you are seeing is a few individual's strong opinions.

That being said, I own both X poles and PS poles and think they are both great in their own way.  X pole chrome is amazing and is my favourite summer pole. PS brass is my choice for dry winter weather. I'm also open to new poles from different companies.

[moonflower]

Yup, the more arched you are, the more weight is transfered to your lower shoulder and arms. In my profile pic, my elbows is not really holding my up as it is stopping me from falling back while my lower arm is holding me away.

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Amy is right. It's a lot of weight and stress on the lower arm and shoulder. I don;t really have many tips on getting the fang except that you have to be able to stay in the elbow grip aysha comfortably for a period of time while changing leg position ( therefore, balance while shifting your weight).  Also, in the aysha, if your lower hand slide a little bit becuase of a slippy pole, it's not the end of the world, just hook your legs and you are safe. If your hands slide in a fang, it's terrifying. On slicker pole days I've had "ABORT ABORT ABORT" moments doing the fang.

[moonflower]

Thanks for replies! I'll work on the extension with my ankle hooked.

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FIY the package with the replacement parts have arrived. I had it sent to my parent house though and I haven;t had the time to go pick it up.